Tony Mathis

And we found out that was going on from one of the family members.

And we found out that was going on from one of the family members.

Oh yeah.

Oh yeah.

We've given them the information. We had, we had several family members come forward and tell us that, you know, cousins, et cetera, tell us that, uh, that the great grandmother would, would take the FaceTime phone over to her daughter and, and, the grandmother would have, you know, lengthy conversations with Sebastian.

We've given them the information. We had, we had several family members come forward and tell us that, you know, cousins, et cetera, tell us that, uh, that the great grandmother would, would take the FaceTime phone over to her daughter and, and, the grandmother would have, you know, lengthy conversations with Sebastian.

Correct, and I'm not saying that I'm using her making the comment that he loved to FaceTime his family members, and he FaceTimed family members that morning. We don't know whether he FaceTimed her that morning or not, just to be clear. But we know that on a regular basis, he would FaceTime the great-grandmother. She would take the phone over to her daughter, and they would have conversation.

Correct, and I'm not saying that I'm using her making the comment that he loved to FaceTime his family members, and he FaceTimed family members that morning. We don't know whether he FaceTimed her that morning or not, just to be clear. But we know that on a regular basis, he would FaceTime the great-grandmother. She would take the phone over to her daughter, and they would have conversation.

You know, Aiden, what, what's rough here is, uh, You know, we have 287 pages of family counseling reports that are not protected. We've been asked not to share the details of those.

You know, Aiden, what, what's rough here is, uh, You know, we have 287 pages of family counseling reports that are not protected. We've been asked not to share the details of those.

But I can tell you that it's very tough on Seth Rogers to have looked through those reports and through the CPS reports and to be on a platform having to defend himself. That's tough. I don't.

But I can tell you that it's very tough on Seth Rogers to have looked through those reports and through the CPS reports and to be on a platform having to defend himself. That's tough. I don't.

We've got some questions that we would love to send you to ask Katie when she comes on the show.

We've got some questions that we would love to send you to ask Katie when she comes on the show.

Yeah. Because I'm sure that the mother and father would love to both take advantage of a platform this size to clear up any misinformation and bring awareness to their missing child, right?

Yeah. Because I'm sure that the mother and father would love to both take advantage of a platform this size to clear up any misinformation and bring awareness to their missing child, right?

And think about this. I mean, you have their representative come on, which an equal playing field there would have been for me to come on in response, correct? Yeah. Well, we won up that, and we brought the father on.

And think about this. I mean, you have their representative come on, which an equal playing field there would have been for me to come on in response, correct? Yeah. Well, we won up that, and we brought the father on.

Yeah.

Yeah.