Tony Moore

So one of the things, Clarence, I think you might've missed. I was, I had asked you, Blacks in general, typically girl understanding are hearing the stories of the Tuskegee experiments.

So one of the things, Clarence, I think you might've missed. I was, I had asked you, Blacks in general, typically girl understanding are hearing the stories of the Tuskegee experiments.

Right. And so when you are raised that your government or institutions do things to minorities that they typically don't need, that you don't hear about white America being treated a certain way. You grow up with sort of a reservation for anything being introduced new as, hey, we want to try this new thing with you. So cut to me having my conversations with Hytham and moving forward.

Right. And so when you are raised that your government or institutions do things to minorities that they typically don't need, that you don't hear about white America being treated a certain way. You grow up with sort of a reservation for anything being introduced new as, hey, we want to try this new thing with you. So cut to me having my conversations with Hytham and moving forward.

One of the things about communication and trust was I basically posed, how is this different? than anything else in history that has been done for black folks under the guise that it's supposed to be better for them. And turns out 20, 30 years later that it was actually a setup distrust and, oh, there's no accountability for injecting people with something that actually makes them sick.

One of the things about communication and trust was I basically posed, how is this different? than anything else in history that has been done for black folks under the guise that it's supposed to be better for them. And turns out 20, 30 years later that it was actually a setup distrust and, oh, there's no accountability for injecting people with something that actually makes them sick.

And we can sit back and watch them because it's an experiment, right? Yeah.

And we can sit back and watch them because it's an experiment, right? Yeah.

And those were the issues that I was having with this whole thing, along with the fact that if I would have been a Caucasian male or female, I would not have been released out of that hospital with 70% blockage in my brain without seeing the top neurologist that the hospital had to offer.

And those were the issues that I was having with this whole thing, along with the fact that if I would have been a Caucasian male or female, I would not have been released out of that hospital with 70% blockage in my brain without seeing the top neurologist that the hospital had to offer.

Yeah. Yeah. That's part of where Haitham and I had gotten to in terms of lack of information. So we finally got to here. But I think that that was the root cause of apprehension for most people. I agree. Is exactly what you're saying. We can't get to the solution because there's distrust there. And that's what we had to work on was...

Yeah. Yeah. That's part of where Haitham and I had gotten to in terms of lack of information. So we finally got to here. But I think that that was the root cause of apprehension for most people. I agree. Is exactly what you're saying. We can't get to the solution because there's distrust there. And that's what we had to work on was...

How do we bridge that gap to get that trust involved, not only with myself, but with others in the community and moving forward? And so that was the phase that we really were talking about working on moving forward.

How do we bridge that gap to get that trust involved, not only with myself, but with others in the community and moving forward? And so that was the phase that we really were talking about working on moving forward.

And I love that.

And I love that.

as I sidebar before I get back to this. Sure, go ahead. So once I got about 45, right, a lot of the things that start happening are things of, you know, are you where you need to be in your career? Because now you're on the second half of your life and relationships and everything else. And one of the things that I was raised is, You're stoic.

as I sidebar before I get back to this. Sure, go ahead. So once I got about 45, right, a lot of the things that start happening are things of, you know, are you where you need to be in your career? Because now you're on the second half of your life and relationships and everything else. And one of the things that I was raised is, You're stoic.

You don't talk about, especially in a black household. All my life, it was, we would always joke, Prozac Nation, right? And so that was the running joke because it was like, yeah, they're on drugs and volume and this and that and everything. But to us, oh, you gotta be strong and sturdy.

You don't talk about, especially in a black household. All my life, it was, we would always joke, Prozac Nation, right? And so that was the running joke because it was like, yeah, they're on drugs and volume and this and that and everything. But to us, oh, you gotta be strong and sturdy.