Tony Schaefer

And I think Pete's smart enough to know what he doesn't know and look for help.

And I think Pete's smart enough to know what he doesn't know and look for help.

And I think Pete's smart enough to know what he doesn't know and look for help.

I think there was either four or five. Yeah, I have to go back and look, but yes, there were a number.

I think there was either four or five. Yeah, I have to go back and look, but yes, there were a number.

I think there was either four or five. Yeah, I have to go back and look, but yes, there were a number.

No doubt. And remember, this is not the first time they picked someone very young to come in with relatively little industrial experience to do this. Remember, John Layman. John Layman was appointed when he was still a serving commander. In fact, I've heard stories Mike, of John Layman, Commander John Layman, showing up to do a trap on an aircraft carrier and the crew freaking out.

No doubt. And remember, this is not the first time they picked someone very young to come in with relatively little industrial experience to do this. Remember, John Layman. John Layman was appointed when he was still a serving commander. In fact, I've heard stories Mike, of John Layman, Commander John Layman, showing up to do a trap on an aircraft carrier and the crew freaking out.

No doubt. And remember, this is not the first time they picked someone very young to come in with relatively little industrial experience to do this. Remember, John Layman. John Layman was appointed when he was still a serving commander. In fact, I've heard stories Mike, of John Layman, Commander John Layman, showing up to do a trap on an aircraft carrier and the crew freaking out.

It's like, you know, that's the Secretary of the Navy. He's like, well, he's just here for reserve duty. He's like, yeah, right. So I'm just saying that this has happened before. In 81, Reagan appointed a very young John Layman to be Secretary of the Navy, to turn the Navy around, and he did it. So just saying. Yeah.

It's like, you know, that's the Secretary of the Navy. He's like, well, he's just here for reserve duty. He's like, yeah, right. So I'm just saying that this has happened before. In 81, Reagan appointed a very young John Layman to be Secretary of the Navy, to turn the Navy around, and he did it. So just saying. Yeah.

It's like, you know, that's the Secretary of the Navy. He's like, well, he's just here for reserve duty. He's like, yeah, right. So I'm just saying that this has happened before. In 81, Reagan appointed a very young John Layman to be Secretary of the Navy, to turn the Navy around, and he did it. So just saying. Yeah.

I was serving military case officer for most of my career in our version of the DO, in different organizations within DOD. I ran the first undercover cyber unit, Stratus Ivy, where we did all the things that the IOC now does, if you know what IOC is, the Information Operations folks. I served time in Afghanistan.

I was serving military case officer for most of my career in our version of the DO, in different organizations within DOD. I ran the first undercover cyber unit, Stratus Ivy, where we did all the things that the IOC now does, if you know what IOC is, the Information Operations folks. I served time in Afghanistan.

I was serving military case officer for most of my career in our version of the DO, in different organizations within DOD. I ran the first undercover cyber unit, Stratus Ivy, where we did all the things that the IOC now does, if you know what IOC is, the Information Operations folks. I served time in Afghanistan.

I wrote a book about it, Operation Dark Heart, where I served with McChrystal and Lloyd Austin. I actually worked for Lloyd Austin. And after that, I came back, was a whistleblower on 9-11 failures on something called Able Danger. That's how I kind of diverted from my career into politics. And from there, I ended up working and becoming essentially a think tank guy.

I wrote a book about it, Operation Dark Heart, where I served with McChrystal and Lloyd Austin. I actually worked for Lloyd Austin. And after that, I came back, was a whistleblower on 9-11 failures on something called Able Danger. That's how I kind of diverted from my career into politics. And from there, I ended up working and becoming essentially a think tank guy.

I wrote a book about it, Operation Dark Heart, where I served with McChrystal and Lloyd Austin. I actually worked for Lloyd Austin. And after that, I came back, was a whistleblower on 9-11 failures on something called Able Danger. That's how I kind of diverted from my career into politics. And from there, I ended up working and becoming essentially a think tank guy.

Ran the London Center for Policy Research in New York. I currently run something called Project Sentinel. Wrote a couple of books, Operation Dark Heart, regarding my experiences. Was on the Trump transition team in 2016. advised the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Joe Dunford, when he was chairman, ended up advising a bunch of folks like Tulsi and others.

Ran the London Center for Policy Research in New York. I currently run something called Project Sentinel. Wrote a couple of books, Operation Dark Heart, regarding my experiences. Was on the Trump transition team in 2016. advised the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Joe Dunford, when he was chairman, ended up advising a bunch of folks like Tulsi and others.