Tony Schaefer

Ran the London Center for Policy Research in New York. I currently run something called Project Sentinel. Wrote a couple of books, Operation Dark Heart, regarding my experiences. Was on the Trump transition team in 2016. advised the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Joe Dunford, when he was chairman, ended up advising a bunch of folks like Tulsi and others.

So I ended up kind of getting stuck doing media and politics. So that's why I'm here. And I know these folks because I've worked with them in some form. So I appreciate you giving me the time, Mike, to help inform your audience of some of the things that I've experienced directly. And I hope I better help them understand what's going on with these folks and why Trump or President Trump picked them.

So I ended up kind of getting stuck doing media and politics. So that's why I'm here. And I know these folks because I've worked with them in some form. So I appreciate you giving me the time, Mike, to help inform your audience of some of the things that I've experienced directly. And I hope I better help them understand what's going on with these folks and why Trump or President Trump picked them.

So I ended up kind of getting stuck doing media and politics. So that's why I'm here. And I know these folks because I've worked with them in some form. So I appreciate you giving me the time, Mike, to help inform your audience of some of the things that I've experienced directly. And I hope I better help them understand what's going on with these folks and why Trump or President Trump picked them.

Man, he's kind of the canary in the coal mine, right? Speaking of turning the temperature down. First off, let me say for the record, Matt Gaetz was not abducted by aliens. Whatever they say, that did not happen. Just saying. So let's be clear on that. So let me give two grades on this, Mike, since you put me on the spot here.

Man, he's kind of the canary in the coal mine, right? Speaking of turning the temperature down. First off, let me say for the record, Matt Gaetz was not abducted by aliens. Whatever they say, that did not happen. Just saying. So let's be clear on that. So let me give two grades on this, Mike, since you put me on the spot here.

Man, he's kind of the canary in the coal mine, right? Speaking of turning the temperature down. First off, let me say for the record, Matt Gaetz was not abducted by aliens. Whatever they say, that did not happen. Just saying. So let's be clear on that. So let me give two grades on this, Mike, since you put me on the spot here.

So Matt's choice to have Matt be the canary in a coal mine, it's a solid A. It's like, okay, if you want to have distraction from all the other nominees, nominate Matt Gaetz. So that's probably an A to trough more than Gaetz, but it's like, He's the he's the guy they're going to look at regarding the choice. I think I look, I give it a B plus because, well, he's not a law enforcement guy.

So Matt's choice to have Matt be the canary in a coal mine, it's a solid A. It's like, okay, if you want to have distraction from all the other nominees, nominate Matt Gaetz. So that's probably an A to trough more than Gaetz, but it's like, He's the he's the guy they're going to look at regarding the choice. I think I look, I give it a B plus because, well, he's not a law enforcement guy.

So Matt's choice to have Matt be the canary in a coal mine, it's a solid A. It's like, okay, if you want to have distraction from all the other nominees, nominate Matt Gaetz. So that's probably an A to trough more than Gaetz, but it's like, He's the he's the guy they're going to look at regarding the choice. I think I look, I give it a B plus because, well, he's not a law enforcement guy.

He's willing to do and say things others would not be willing to do. And so I think that that's why people are freaking out, because they know he's going to be fearless. He's got nothing to lose. And come on, let's face it. You and I don't know men who have nothing to lose and and they don't stop. So I think that's what they're afraid. Yeah, there you go.

He's willing to do and say things others would not be willing to do. And so I think that that's why people are freaking out, because they know he's going to be fearless. He's got nothing to lose. And come on, let's face it. You and I don't know men who have nothing to lose and and they don't stop. So I think that's what they're afraid. Yeah, there you go.

He's willing to do and say things others would not be willing to do. And so I think that that's why people are freaking out, because they know he's going to be fearless. He's got nothing to lose. And come on, let's face it. You and I don't know men who have nothing to lose and and they don't stop. So I think that's what they're afraid. Yeah, there you go.