Tonya Mosley

You interviewed the president of some of these sites.

I think it was FanDuel and an executive of DraftKings.

They both told you that their companies don't want revenue from people with gambling problems.

But

What we know about gambling is that it can be compulsive by nature.

And then you add on top of that, our phones are designed to keep us addicted.

And then these platforms, as you laid out here, will allow you to virtually bet on anything at any hour of the day.

You're going to get a snack.

You're laying in your bed, all of that stuff.

That is nearly a perfect recipe for exactly the kind of customer they claim they don't want.

Right.

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If you're just joining us, I'm speaking with McKay Coppins, whose Atlantic cover story follows a season inside America's sports betting explosion.

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How did you wean yourself off from these sites once you submitted the story?

Explain it.

Yeah, explain it for folks who don't know.

You started off with $10,000 to bet with.

What did you end with?