Tonya Mosley

Our interview was recorded yesterday.

You know, something that my producers and I have been talking about is how there seems to be kind of two different ways the world is responding to the Epstein files.

In the UK, we have seen since these files began to surface...

A prince has been stripped of his titles and evicted.

Peter Mandelson has been fired as ambassador, forced out of the House of Lords and is under criminal investigation.

The prime minister is fighting for survival.

There are investigations in Norway, Lithuania, Turkey, and they seem to have real consequences.

And then here...

Where these files originated, the deputy attorney general says the review is just about complete and there are no further prosecutions are expected.

And you are British born.

I am curious about how you explain that gap and how this case is handled here versus in the UK.

But so far, those are consequences, but they're not prosecution.

And I'm just wondering from you what you feel like accountability looks like now and who it really serves.

Why do you think this story has such a hold on the public?

I mean, this is regardless of political affiliation, age, gender.

geography all eyes are on this story and you've been sitting with it for 23 years there's a moment where you were trying to get people to to look and they wouldn't look what do you think it is about this particular moment well

Vicki Ward, thank you so much.

Thank you for having me.

Vicki Ward is an investigative reporter and host of the documentary series Chasing Ghislaine.

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