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And I think that there's a book that I read was super helpful for me. I don't remember the author, but it's The Unexpected Legacy of Divorce. And it was super helpful for me because the underlying idea is that for those children who are the children of divorced families, in the back of your mind, you have this sense that everything will end.

And I think that there's a book that I read was super helpful for me. I don't remember the author, but it's The Unexpected Legacy of Divorce. And it was super helpful for me because the underlying idea is that for those children who are the children of divorced families, in the back of your mind, you have this sense that everything will end.

whether it's a friendship, romantic, or even a work partnership, you assume it will end. So whenever you're in a relationship of any kind, you're in the back of your mind, you're like, okay, how's this going to end? And if you ask the question, how's this going to end? Well, there's a multiple ways that it can end.

whether it's a friendship, romantic, or even a work partnership, you assume it will end. So whenever you're in a relationship of any kind, you're in the back of your mind, you're like, okay, how's this going to end? And if you ask the question, how's this going to end? Well, there's a multiple ways that it can end.

But in the book, it says for those who do not come from divorced families, they don't have that conception of the world. Things don't necessarily have to crumble and fall apart. And I think that is one effect that I saw as a lingering effect from that childhood. For many of my 20s and 30s in relationships, it was always like, how is this going to end?

But in the book, it says for those who do not come from divorced families, they don't have that conception of the world. Things don't necessarily have to crumble and fall apart. And I think that is one effect that I saw as a lingering effect from that childhood. For many of my 20s and 30s in relationships, it was always like, how is this going to end?

So that doesn't bode well for the longevity of a relationship when you're looking at about how it's going to end. Because really, you're trying to just protect yourself, right? But if you're protecting yourself, you also can't necessarily extend beyond the reaches of the wall that's protecting you. So you're limited in the emotional experience you can have because you are protecting yourself.

So that doesn't bode well for the longevity of a relationship when you're looking at about how it's going to end. Because really, you're trying to just protect yourself, right? But if you're protecting yourself, you also can't necessarily extend beyond the reaches of the wall that's protecting you. So you're limited in the emotional experience you can have because you are protecting yourself.

You are both protected by the walls, but you're also captive to the walls that protect you.

You are both protected by the walls, but you're also captive to the walls that protect you.

Yeah. I mean, look, I'm not a therapist and my experience comes from really being very curious of human nature and being able to create spaces where you could, or one can have a real experience.

Yeah. I mean, look, I'm not a therapist and my experience comes from really being very curious of human nature and being able to create spaces where you could, or one can have a real experience.

And in this sense of the end, I've been honored and privileged to be in the space, my team and I, I haven't been in all 1200, but my team and I have been in the space for over 1200 conversations of all kinds of relationships in about 10 countries.

And in this sense of the end, I've been honored and privileged to be in the space, my team and I, I haven't been in all 1200, but my team and I have been in the space for over 1200 conversations of all kinds of relationships in about 10 countries.

And that is where I come to you now with my experience, not only my life experience, but obviously, you know, how many people get to really see that many conversations between people. in a real intimate way. And even if you think about therapists, therapists get to see a lot of conversations, but therapists are part of the conversation. They're guides within the conversation.

And that is where I come to you now with my experience, not only my life experience, but obviously, you know, how many people get to really see that many conversations between people. in a real intimate way. And even if you think about therapists, therapists get to see a lot of conversations, but therapists are part of the conversation. They're guides within the conversation.

If it's a couples therapy, they're asking questions, they're guiding. Here, I pose the questions, you sit back, and the participants are having a conversation, and we witness that. And that's a really honored place to be in, and there's a lot of learning and illumination that comes up inevitably from being in that privileged position.

If it's a couples therapy, they're asking questions, they're guiding. Here, I pose the questions, you sit back, and the participants are having a conversation, and we witness that. And that's a really honored place to be in, and there's a lot of learning and illumination that comes up inevitably from being in that privileged position.

Why did it become a success? Why did it become a viral success? Why did it speak to people? Because people in a digital world, they needed a sense of humanity. And we are the corner of the internet where you can get a digital dose of humanity. And the question is, what was this guy talking about? What is humanity? I don't know even if I like humans, to be honest. We do some terrible things.

Why did it become a success? Why did it become a viral success? Why did it speak to people? Because people in a digital world, they needed a sense of humanity. And we are the corner of the internet where you can get a digital dose of humanity. And the question is, what was this guy talking about? What is humanity? I don't know even if I like humans, to be honest. We do some terrible things.