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Topher Payne

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TED Talks Daily
Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

It was desperately sad.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

Meet Topher Payne.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

I am a playwright and teacher in Atlanta.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

I'll absolutely take that.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

Once there was a tree, and the tree loved the boy.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

And every day the little boy would come and play in the tree's branches, and they had a marvelous friendship.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

And the tree gives her branches, which do grow back, but they grow back so much slower.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

But she gives them up because she loves the boy.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

And then he wants to build a boat and so on and so on until the tree is nothing but a sad little stump and there is nothing left of her.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

And the boy comes back as an old man and she has nothing left to give and he sits on her.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

The end.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

You know, the most common hot take that I hear on the story is that it is an allegory for maternal love.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

You just give everything that you have to your child, and you see them thriving, and they are so happy.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

And the two things that I want to say to that are, one, nuh-uh, that's not how motherhood should work.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

And two, the boy is not happy.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

There is nothing in the story that indicates that this behavior results in the boy being happy.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

The boy always comes back seeking more and doesn't understand why he doesn't feel fulfilled.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

Yes.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

This notion of give till it hurts.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

No, sometimes pain is a sensor telling you to stop something.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

And so don't give till it hurts and certainly don't give past hurting.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

And the tree does.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

"'I am too busy to climb trees,' said the boy.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

"'I want a house to keep me warm,' he said.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

"'I want a wife and I want children, and so I need a house.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

"'Can you give me a house?'

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

And the tree said, "'Okay, hold up, this is already getting out of hand.'

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

Look, I was fine with giving you the apples to help you get on your feet.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

They'll grow back next season anyway.

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But no, I'm not giving you a house.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

You know, I've seen boys like you pull this nonsense with other trees in the forest.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

First it's the apples, then branches, then the trunk.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

And before you know it, that mighty beautiful tree is just a sad little stump.

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Well, look here, boy.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

I love you like family, but I am not going down like that.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

And as each generation played in her strong old branches, the tree often thought back to the fateful day when the boy had asked her for a house.

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In truth, she would have gladly given him her branches to build one.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

She would have given him her trunk to build a boat.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

She loved him that much.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

But then she would have had nothing left.

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Not for herself, nor anyone else.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

And there never would have been a home for the red squirrels.

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There'd have been no hide-and-seek with the boys' grandchildren.

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No bakery with the best apple pies anyone ever tasted.

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Setting healthy boundaries is a very important part of giving.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

It assures you'll always have something left to give.

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And so the tree was happy.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

Everyone was.

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Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

The End