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TED Talks Daily

Sunday Pick: How to say no | WorkLife with Adam Grant

25 May 2025

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7.068 - 25.888 Elise Hu

Hey, TED Talks Daily listeners, I'm Elise Hu. Today, we have an episode of another podcast from the TED Audio Collective handpicked by us for you. Saying no can be one of the hardest things to do. Even if you're not a people pleaser, the desire to maintain a positive reputation at work or with friends can make it hard to turn people down.

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26.509 - 49.031 Elise Hu

Lucky for us, Work Life with Adam Grant is back for a new season. In the episode, Adam explores the art and the science of saying no. He shares strategies for setting boundaries with others that allow us to create space for ourselves and, in turn, healthier relationships with those around us. If you want to learn more ways to work smarter, you're in luck.

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49.191 - 57.038 Elise Hu

You can find Work Life wherever you get your podcasts. Learn more about the TED Audio Collective at audiocollective.ted.com.

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61.051 - 74.251 Adam Grant

When my wife Allison and I became parents, one of the first gifts we got was the classic book, The Giving Tree. We remembered it having a meaningful message about generosity. But when we reread it, we found it disturbing. And we weren't alone.

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74.872 - 82.183 Topher Payne

It was desperately sad. Meet Topher Payne. I am a playwright and teacher in Atlanta.

82.924 - 87.531 Adam Grant

I think of you as the ultimate repairman for broken children's books.

89.063 - 90.805 Topher Payne

I'll absolutely take that.

91.706 - 102.179 Adam Grant

One of Topher's projects is writing new endings for classic children's books. In 2020, he picked up The Giving Tree for the first time since childhood. To refresh your memory, here's the gist.

102.66 - 111.17 Topher Payne

Once there was a tree, and the tree loved the boy. And every day the little boy would come and play in the tree's branches, and they had a marvelous friendship.

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