Torrey Peters

You can think of it in the realm of Paul Bunyan or John Henry. It takes place at a remote winter logging camp where the lonely men, they really did do this historically, decide to put on a dance where any of the loggers can come to the dance and dance as a woman.

And in this story, the biggest, strongest, ugliest of the loggers, who's jealous of the prettiest boy in camp, decides that he'll attend the dance as a woman. And this decision unleashes a kind of chaos that plays out in the camp.

And in this story, the biggest, strongest, ugliest of the loggers, who's jealous of the prettiest boy in camp, decides that he'll attend the dance as a woman. And this decision unleashes a kind of chaos that plays out in the camp.

And in this story, the biggest, strongest, ugliest of the loggers, who's jealous of the prettiest boy in camp, decides that he'll attend the dance as a woman. And this decision unleashes a kind of chaos that plays out in the camp.

Yeah. I mean, that was actually part of the project of that story is that I've been, you know, talking about trans stuff for 10 years. And in a lot of ways, I oftentimes feel that the language is ossified, that actually it's, you know, you hear a word like gender dysphoria and you have a sense of what it means, but you don't really have a sense of how it feels. And in writing this book...

Yeah. I mean, that was actually part of the project of that story is that I've been, you know, talking about trans stuff for 10 years. And in a lot of ways, I oftentimes feel that the language is ossified, that actually it's, you know, you hear a word like gender dysphoria and you have a sense of what it means, but you don't really have a sense of how it feels. And in writing this book...

Yeah. I mean, that was actually part of the project of that story is that I've been, you know, talking about trans stuff for 10 years. And in a lot of ways, I oftentimes feel that the language is ossified, that actually it's, you know, you hear a word like gender dysphoria and you have a sense of what it means, but you don't really have a sense of how it feels. And in writing this book...

I came across this dictionary of lager slang. So like a word for egg, for instance, might be cackleberry, like the hen cackles and it lays eggs, which are like berries that they can pick. So they would say we're eating cackleberries. And so the language is totally strange. And the project was partially, can I describe the feelings that I relate to in

I came across this dictionary of lager slang. So like a word for egg, for instance, might be cackleberry, like the hen cackles and it lays eggs, which are like berries that they can pick. So they would say we're eating cackleberries. And so the language is totally strange. And the project was partially, can I describe the feelings that I relate to in

I came across this dictionary of lager slang. So like a word for egg, for instance, might be cackleberry, like the hen cackles and it lays eggs, which are like berries that they can pick. So they would say we're eating cackleberries. And so the language is totally strange. And the project was partially, can I describe the feelings that I relate to in

in language that's totally alien to me, that's strange to me. And I found that over the course of the project, yeah, I could. Actually, because, again, the feelings of trying to get right with yourself, the feelings of having desire, the feelings of frustration with the body that you might have, these aren't things that you need a degree in gender studies to talk about. And they were actually...

in language that's totally alien to me, that's strange to me. And I found that over the course of the project, yeah, I could. Actually, because, again, the feelings of trying to get right with yourself, the feelings of having desire, the feelings of frustration with the body that you might have, these aren't things that you need a degree in gender studies to talk about. And they were actually...

in language that's totally alien to me, that's strange to me. And I found that over the course of the project, yeah, I could. Actually, because, again, the feelings of trying to get right with yourself, the feelings of having desire, the feelings of frustration with the body that you might have, these aren't things that you need a degree in gender studies to talk about. And they were actually...

Well, one of the things I was kind of looking at is actually what constitutes a transition. In the logging camp, anyone who had a brown fabric triangle over their crotch would go to the dance as a woman. And that's like a very gendered symbol.

Well, one of the things I was kind of looking at is actually what constitutes a transition. In the logging camp, anyone who had a brown fabric triangle over their crotch would go to the dance as a woman. And that's like a very gendered symbol.

Well, one of the things I was kind of looking at is actually what constitutes a transition. In the logging camp, anyone who had a brown fabric triangle over their crotch would go to the dance as a woman. And that's like a very gendered symbol.

I oftentimes think of transition as you're kind of putting on symbols because a transition, you know, I think in the sort of like dogma of kind of trans thought is, The idea is like, well, you declare yourself a thing and then you go out and kind of become that thing. And that's not actually how I see it working.

I oftentimes think of transition as you're kind of putting on symbols because a transition, you know, I think in the sort of like dogma of kind of trans thought is, The idea is like, well, you declare yourself a thing and then you go out and kind of become that thing. And that's not actually how I see it working.

I oftentimes think of transition as you're kind of putting on symbols because a transition, you know, I think in the sort of like dogma of kind of trans thought is, The idea is like, well, you declare yourself a thing and then you go out and kind of become that thing. And that's not actually how I see it working.

I think that oftentimes gender is actually a negotiation with all these people around us. The dream is that you live in a society where you can just say, this is who I want to be and everybody accepts you. But in fact, they don't. You're sort of negotiating with people. And I don't just think that's trans people who are negotiating. I think if you're...