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Torsten Reil

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
639 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of War: Are We Ready & What Needs to Be Done | China, Russia and Trump: What Happens Now | Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | Torsten Reil, Co-Founder @ Helsing

But if it is very compelling, which yours is, it becomes something that people will consume too much. Same with food. Same with food. I think food can be dangerous too, but I think TikTok is a lot more dangerous than hamburgers. Large parts of society are wasting so much of their time on something that has been highly tuned.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of War: Are We Ready & What Needs to Be Done | China, Russia and Trump: What Happens Now | Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | Torsten Reil, Co-Founder @ Helsing

But if it is very compelling, which yours is, it becomes something that people will consume too much. Same with food. Same with food. I think food can be dangerous too, but I think TikTok is a lot more dangerous than hamburgers. Large parts of society are wasting so much of their time on something that has been highly tuned.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of War: Are We Ready & What Needs to Be Done | China, Russia and Trump: What Happens Now | Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | Torsten Reil, Co-Founder @ Helsing

But if it is very compelling, which yours is, it becomes something that people will consume too much. Same with food. Same with food. I think food can be dangerous too, but I think TikTok is a lot more dangerous than hamburgers. Large parts of society are wasting so much of their time on something that has been highly tuned.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of War: Are We Ready & What Needs to Be Done | China, Russia and Trump: What Happens Now | Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | Torsten Reil, Co-Founder @ Helsing

I'm saying this as someone who used to make games, and we know what dopamine loops look like. TikTok loop is the best, and you cannot get out of it. Why is it the best? Because it has just the right combination of timing, the flick, the content that immediately comes up. It's perfectly tuned. And obviously they have all the metrics to know what content to show you. It is super addictive.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of War: Are We Ready & What Needs to Be Done | China, Russia and Trump: What Happens Now | Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | Torsten Reil, Co-Founder @ Helsing

I'm saying this as someone who used to make games, and we know what dopamine loops look like. TikTok loop is the best, and you cannot get out of it. Why is it the best? Because it has just the right combination of timing, the flick, the content that immediately comes up. It's perfectly tuned. And obviously they have all the metrics to know what content to show you. It is super addictive.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of War: Are We Ready & What Needs to Be Done | China, Russia and Trump: What Happens Now | Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | Torsten Reil, Co-Founder @ Helsing

I'm saying this as someone who used to make games, and we know what dopamine loops look like. TikTok loop is the best, and you cannot get out of it. Why is it the best? Because it has just the right combination of timing, the flick, the content that immediately comes up. It's perfectly tuned. And obviously they have all the metrics to know what content to show you. It is super addictive.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of War: Are We Ready & What Needs to Be Done | China, Russia and Trump: What Happens Now | Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | Torsten Reil, Co-Founder @ Helsing

It's incredibly dangerous. It also obviously becomes a potential tool for manipulation, political manipulation, whether that's happening or not. But it is extremely powerful if you wanted to use it. And then thirdly, it has the same problem as all social media. The content that works the best is the content that's the most extreme.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of War: Are We Ready & What Needs to Be Done | China, Russia and Trump: What Happens Now | Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | Torsten Reil, Co-Founder @ Helsing

It's incredibly dangerous. It also obviously becomes a potential tool for manipulation, political manipulation, whether that's happening or not. But it is extremely powerful if you wanted to use it. And then thirdly, it has the same problem as all social media. The content that works the best is the content that's the most extreme.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of War: Are We Ready & What Needs to Be Done | China, Russia and Trump: What Happens Now | Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | Torsten Reil, Co-Founder @ Helsing

It's incredibly dangerous. It also obviously becomes a potential tool for manipulation, political manipulation, whether that's happening or not. But it is extremely powerful if you wanted to use it. And then thirdly, it has the same problem as all social media. The content that works the best is the content that's the most extreme.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of War: Are We Ready & What Needs to Be Done | China, Russia and Trump: What Happens Now | Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | Torsten Reil, Co-Founder @ Helsing

And so we have a problem of basically radicalizing political views where just almost by definition, radical content will just work better. Do you believe Twitter is better under Elon Musk? It's very different. How would you say it's different? There are different people on there now. I think other people have left. Maybe you get a broader spectrum of views. It's hard to tell.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of War: Are We Ready & What Needs to Be Done | China, Russia and Trump: What Happens Now | Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | Torsten Reil, Co-Founder @ Helsing

And so we have a problem of basically radicalizing political views where just almost by definition, radical content will just work better. Do you believe Twitter is better under Elon Musk? It's very different. How would you say it's different? There are different people on there now. I think other people have left. Maybe you get a broader spectrum of views. It's hard to tell.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of War: Are We Ready & What Needs to Be Done | China, Russia and Trump: What Happens Now | Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | Torsten Reil, Co-Founder @ Helsing

And so we have a problem of basically radicalizing political views where just almost by definition, radical content will just work better. Do you believe Twitter is better under Elon Musk? It's very different. How would you say it's different? There are different people on there now. I think other people have left. Maybe you get a broader spectrum of views. It's hard to tell.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of War: Are We Ready & What Needs to Be Done | China, Russia and Trump: What Happens Now | Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | Torsten Reil, Co-Founder @ Helsing

I think the jury is out on that. But it does feel different.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of War: Are We Ready & What Needs to Be Done | China, Russia and Trump: What Happens Now | Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | Torsten Reil, Co-Founder @ Helsing

I think the jury is out on that. But it does feel different.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of War: Are We Ready & What Needs to Be Done | China, Russia and Trump: What Happens Now | Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | Torsten Reil, Co-Founder @ Helsing

I think the jury is out on that. But it does feel different.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of War: Are We Ready & What Needs to Be Done | China, Russia and Trump: What Happens Now | Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | Torsten Reil, Co-Founder @ Helsing

If you care about the platform that much, then maybe it's the right thing to do if you have the cash available.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of War: Are We Ready & What Needs to Be Done | China, Russia and Trump: What Happens Now | Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | Torsten Reil, Co-Founder @ Helsing

If you care about the platform that much, then maybe it's the right thing to do if you have the cash available.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of War: Are We Ready & What Needs to Be Done | China, Russia and Trump: What Happens Now | Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | Torsten Reil, Co-Founder @ Helsing

If you care about the platform that much, then maybe it's the right thing to do if you have the cash available.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of War: Are We Ready & What Needs to Be Done | China, Russia and Trump: What Happens Now | Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | Torsten Reil, Co-Founder @ Helsing

I think we wish we had known that the Ukraine war was going to happen that quickly.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Future of War: Are We Ready & What Needs to Be Done | China, Russia and Trump: What Happens Now | Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | Torsten Reil, Co-Founder @ Helsing

I think we wish we had known that the Ukraine war was going to happen that quickly.