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Torsten Slok

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Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

Well, and the key issue is that, of course, headline inflation is showing signs of higher inflation.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

That makes total sense because headline inflation also consists of food and, of course, importantly, energy.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

Core inflation expectations, we don't quite know yet what they are doing.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

But what we do know is that when you look at various other sentiment indicators, including today we've got consumer confidence also starting to go down.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

If you look at the daily indicators for consumer sentiment from Morning Consult, it's also going down for low-income consumers.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

middle income, and high income households.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

But the key issue at this point is that if you look at the actual spending, the daily data for how many people travel on airplanes is still good.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

The weekly data for Redbook same-store retail sales, meaning what was sales in stores last week relative to the same week a year ago, is actually also still

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

very strong, and what you're also seeing, even hotel demand on a weekly basis from Star, is also very strong.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

Both RevPi is strong, the daily rate is strong, the occupancy rate is strong.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

So there's a very different divergence between what are consumers saying relative to what are they actually doing.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

So at this point, the duration of the shock has simply not been long enough to actually create that demand destruction that we all worry so much about.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

Absolutely.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

So both on a market basis and a survey basis, long-term inflation expectations are very, very stable and have not shown any signs of going up.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

In fact, some of them have actually started to go down.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

So exactly, the Fed would mainly worry about our markets getting worried about inflation becoming out of control.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

Maybe yes in the next year.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

We can call that transitory, temporary, whatever we want to call it.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

But it's very clear the market is saying this is absolutely something that's only here for a very limited time.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

And then we will go back and have inflation expectations at the longer run, more stable level.

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