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Torsten Slok

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
309 total appearances

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Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

We should all be stepping back and looking at this with a much more long-term perspective.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

Let's agree that the situation we have today, it's not sustainable.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

We cannot have this, we can discuss for a long time, but we cannot have this for several years, definitely not, and we cannot perhaps even have it for several months.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

And if that's the case,

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

We should expect to have some resolution.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

It makes sense that it's complicated for everyone to figure out what is the military strategy, what's going to be the response on both sides.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

But the conclusion must be that from a market perspective, we're getting closer to the midterm election in eight months.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

From that perspective, there's probably also some political considerations, both in Iran and in the U.S., that comes to the conclusion.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

50 years?

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

50 years?

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

But I do think that at the end of this, we will probably have a situation that is quite different in the sense that we will probably have, at least from the GCC side in the Middle East, probably more connection with the US, probably more connection with Europe, and therefore probably also more stability, more broadly relative to where we were just a few months ago.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

Yeah, so the chart you look at here, it shows you from the Treasury, they put out data for what is the total amount of U.S.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

Treasury debt that needs to be refinanced in the next 12 months.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

And as you can see in the yellow line, it is about $10 trillion that needs to be refinanced.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

In other words, U.S.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

government debt that rolls over.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

So this is bills, this is coupons, this is across the whole curve.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

If you now add to that two other things, on top of that line, we also have $2 trillion in government budget deficit.

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

So that brings us to $12 trillion in

Bloomberg Talks
Apollo Chief Economist Torsten Slok Talks Energy Shock, Inflation

And finally, we also have about 2 trillion in net gross issuance from the hyperscalers and the banks and IG.