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Traci Alloway

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Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

So it's like, OK, the price is different on a Friday versus what?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Yeah.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

You know, we were talking about GPU indices, and

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

You're not the only one doing GPU price indices for sure.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Not anymore.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Yeah, not anymore.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

But when you look at some of the other ones, like sometimes they show different numbers or even different longer term trends.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

What accounts for the discrepancy there?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

What are you doing differently or what are they doing differently, I guess?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

So, of course, like, yes, there's the economic rationale for the existence of a hedging instrument.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

And we can understand that someone who is an entity that from time that needs compute, they're short, implicitly short GPUs, they want to hedge, etc.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

But the liquid markets also really do need speculators and they need people betting on price.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

What are you seeing right now in terms of traders or institutions, et cetera, who economically can take both sides of the trade?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

And how active is this getting where there's just a compute trading desk that is separate from their economic needs?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

I have what is possibly a dumb question, but the compute futures, how are those actually settled?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Cause I have like images in my mind of taking physical delivery of like maybe one of those big chips.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

One can dream.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

How do you literally trade it?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

As in like, let's say there's probably some very bright people in the room, now with an institution, when it's all listed and everything, is it need to go through like a futures broker?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Is it like, could it be like a prediction market where you just go to the website?