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Traci Alloway

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Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Michael Burry tweeted something about, he's like, oh, the lifespan, they're like, right?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

And everyone just spent three weeks free and then moved on from that conversation, right?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Like that was like, what do we know about chip lifespans?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Are there misconceptions out there about the, how long these can get productive?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

So, but there was a, there's a fairly steep, a decent drop from year one to year two.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

That's right.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

But after that, you see a general level.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

There's a sort of big question looming in the background of a lot of these discussions, which is the B question, I guess, whether or not we're in an AI bubble, right?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

And you sort of touched on it earlier.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

You have all this granular data on how people are actually using compute, GPU prices, all of that.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

What's your take on the big question?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

But people can default on contracts, right?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

So even if you have a long term contract signed, that could not work out.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Could you envision credit default swaps or something in the compute market?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Herman Lee, thank you so much for joining us.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Yeah, thank you.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

That was our conversation with Carmen Lee of Compute Exchange and Silicon Data, recorded live at our New York show.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

I'm Traci Alloway.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

You can follow me at Traci Alloway.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

And I'm Joe Wiesenthal.