Tracy Allaway

And I'm Tracy Allaway.

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Yeah, okay.

Yes.

When I look at these charts, they're called time horizon charts.

When I look at them, I like intuitively, I kind of understand what they're saying.

And you can kind of see the leap in progress between some of the previous models and Claude, right?

The latest Claude model.

And that's what got everyone excited was you had this big exponential shift up in the capability of that particular AI model.

But then when I start like diving into what it actually says on METER's website about what these charts represent, I start getting really confused.

I know everyone wants to get excited about AI and charts going up in general, but I think there's a lot of nuance here and we should probably talk about it because the other thing going on with meter right now is they've become sort of the industry standard benchmark.

And so a lot of investment decisions are being based on these charts.

And if you oversimplify them as just like, okay, lines going up and then suddenly it goes up even more, obviously people are going to start to get like maybe a little overexcited.

We should talk about it with our guests who are currently sitting right here.

I'm going to let Joe ask the question about why you're both working in a nonprofit instead of one of the labs later.

But one question I do have is when I think of meter, you guys always come up in the context of these time horizon charts.

And I don't mean this as an insult or anything, but I hardly ever hear anyone talk about the actual like safety aspect of your mission.

No, it's going to write you a poem that you asked for.

Yeah.

Wait, can I just ask, why did you decide to focus on engineering?