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Tracy Alloway

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1938 total appearances

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Brad Jacobs on His Big Bet on Building Insulation

If we have a choice on a decision for capital allocation or M&A or investments, we barely think about how's it going to affect this quarter, this year.

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Brad Jacobs on His Big Bet on Building Insulation

It's really how's it going to affect the long-term.

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Brad Jacobs on His Big Bet on Building Insulation

Were you impacted by the tariffs at all?

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Brad Jacobs on His Big Bet on Building Insulation

Did that complicate the existing business?

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Brad Jacobs on His Big Bet on Building Insulation

Not too much because in roofing, which is what we've been up until Kodiak and our top build,

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Brad Jacobs on His Big Bet on Building Insulation

Almost all of it is manufactured in the United States, sold in the United States, or manufactured in Canada or sold in Canada.

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Brad Jacobs on His Big Bet on Building Insulation

And we really don't have business overseas.

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Brad Jacobs on His Big Bet on Building Insulation

So the tariffs didn't really affect us.

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Brad Jacobs on His Big Bet on Building Insulation

Now, it might have affected demand destruction overall.

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Brad Jacobs on His Big Bet on Building Insulation

It might have affected how much construction was happening.

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Brad Jacobs on His Big Bet on Building Insulation

But directly, we were not clobbered by the tariffs.

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Brad Jacobs on His Big Bet on Building Insulation

The weather clobbered us a lot more than the tariffs.

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Brad Jacobs on His Big Bet on Building Insulation

What is the main commodity input for insulation?

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Brad Jacobs on His Big Bet on Building Insulation

Oh, it's chemical.

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Brad Jacobs on His Big Bet on Building Insulation

It's chemically created and it's refined in a manufacturer with a lot of people looking like chemists.

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Brad Jacobs on His Big Bet on Building Insulation

So like, is it petrochemical?

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Brad Jacobs on His Big Bet on Building Insulation

Like if like oil prices were to surge, would that be a sort of like margin crimping factor for insulation prices?

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Brad Jacobs on His Big Bet on Building Insulation

Well, I think we're better off with oil prices lower for demand, not so much for the cost of the goods, but lower oil prices, there's more confidence and more demand.

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Brad Jacobs on His Big Bet on Building Insulation

But the real factor for building products is mortgage rates.

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Brad Jacobs on His Big Bet on Building Insulation

So mortgage rates when they were seven and a half percent was really bad.