Tracy Alloway

But management matters in any company, in any industry.

Management matters a lot.

You can have a strong management team

who understands how you make money, has the nose for money, has the analytical capabilities of knowing what's important and what's not important, treats their employees right, treats their customers right, treats their vendors right, and they'll make a lot of money.

And you'll have the same exact business across the street with not so sharp management.

They don't treat their customers right.

They don't treat their employees right.

They don't treat their vendors right.

And boom, this company doesn't do so well.

So management matters.

It matters a real lot.

But again, I know you're not, you know, on a day-to-day basis with XPO now, but do you get the sense that the trucking cycle has turned?

JB Hunt's in no time high too.

Yeah, a meaningful uptick in freight.

There are...

Several important gurus, analysts, and industry experts in trucking who have called a turn in the last couple of months.

We'll see.

A couple of months doesn't make a trend yet.

But at the time, it looks like it's inflected.

It looks like there's more goods moving.