Trae (Trey) Stephens

There are not.

It is a pretty godless city with a pocket of really strong believers and community.

Do you get a lot of pushback for that or for being a Christian out there?

You know, when I first moved to San Francisco, that was kind of my expectation, that it would be sort of hostility.

But I haven't experienced that at all.

I feel like really smart people, they generally think of Christians as being simple-minded.

And so when you come at them and you're clearly not

simple-minded, they're just curious.

They're like, I don't get it.

How could you be both smart and also have this kind of crazy faith that I don't take seriously?

And so it's actually been a great opportunity to open doors for people just asking those questions and being able to go into apologetics, explain to them why

You know, I think that their lack of faith is just as much of a faith as mine.

Like you have to be kind of crazy to believe that all of this came from nothing over millions and millions of years.

That requires as big, if not a bigger leap of faith than what I believe.

Of course, yeah.

Case for Christ.

I read that back in high school, man.

Yeah, no, it's absolutely true.

And I think that we're seeing a bit of a renaissance where people are coming back to this idea that, look, even if they have a hard time with the belief in the supernatural, they're starting to kind of grok this idea that,

a society unmoored from truth, foundational truth, is really dangerous and not a society that they want to live in.