Trae (Trey) Stephens

So no shared notes, no video, nothing.

I mean, there were a few hundred people for four consecutive weeks with overflow, like people sitting in the lobby watching a simulcast.

There were a lot.

It was pretty crazy.

Also, the majority were not Christians either.

Oh, shit.

Just people in tech showing up, curious to hear what he had to say.

I think that's kind of the lesson here from an Acts 17 perspective is that you don't want to get ordained ministers to come in and do a Bible-thumping presentation of the gospel.

You want to get people in the marketplace that aren't known for being Christians and then put them in a context where they're talking to people who wouldn't expect them to talk about their faith.

And I think there's a tremendous opportunity to leverage that, not only in tech, but in other leading industries, whether that's finance, media, entertainment, whatever.

Well, I mean, there's a long thought process that gets to that point.

But it actually all starts with just war theory, going back to St.

Augustine.

I think it's really easy to forget in a 21st century context that the laws of engagement in warfare and the way that the West approaches

combat are all rooted in just war tradition from the fifth, sixth centuries.

And the idea is basically that pacifism is a really convenient belief to hold inside of

you know, a hegemony with a monopoly on violence.

It's like, it's very easy to be a pacifist when you have a state that is going to protect your right to be pacifist.

You can't really be a pacifist if you exist outside of a society like that though.

And so then the question is, how do you engage in a just way with protecting innocent life?