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Travis Abney

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1278 total appearances

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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
When The Suspect Outsmarts The The Detective (The Real Story)

Well, now she can't get out of it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
When The Suspect Outsmarts The The Detective (The Real Story)

because here comes grand jury and these are evidence.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
When The Suspect Outsmarts The The Detective (The Real Story)

I'm using these jail calls as evidence and she has to get up in front of a grand jury and later at the trial and be like, yeah, I said this and yeah, I had knowledge that he did that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
When The Suspect Outsmarts The The Detective (The Real Story)

And basically she just wrecked this guy.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
When The Suspect Outsmarts The The Detective (The Real Story)

If it wouldn't have been for her doing that, I don't know if we would have, we may have still got a conviction, but it would have been very, very difficult.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
When The Suspect Outsmarts The The Detective (The Real Story)

But I don't think there was a lot of people at the prosecutor's office that did not like me doing that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
When The Suspect Outsmarts The The Detective (The Real Story)

Why, I don't know.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
When The Suspect Outsmarts The The Detective (The Real Story)

Nothing illegal about it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
When The Suspect Outsmarts The The Detective (The Real Story)

I'm not, you know, I'm just kind of being a scumbag doing what I'm doing.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
When The Suspect Outsmarts The The Detective (The Real Story)

But, you know, hey, if it solves a murder, it solves a murder.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
When The Suspect Outsmarts The The Detective (The Real Story)

So, unfortunately, in the Sheryl's disappearance, there was never anybody locked up in jail that I could dissect some jail calls or anything like that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
When The Suspect Outsmarts The The Detective (The Real Story)

So I was at a, you know, a little bit of a disadvantage there, too, because...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
When The Suspect Outsmarts The The Detective (The Real Story)

people slip up and they say dumb stuff on jail calls.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
When The Suspect Outsmarts The The Detective (The Real Story)

You know, they forget they're being recorded sometimes.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
When The Suspect Outsmarts The The Detective (The Real Story)

I guess so.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
When The Suspect Outsmarts The The Detective (The Real Story)

There was a lot of theories on Facebook that, you know, we live in a small town and the wild stuff that you hear is, you know.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
When The Suspect Outsmarts The The Detective (The Real Story)

One of the big things was the reason that the case was never solved was because me and him, we were buddies, and there was a wild theory that we were spotted together at a Bengals game after, you know, like mid-investigation.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
When The Suspect Outsmarts The The Detective (The Real Story)

Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
When The Suspect Outsmarts The The Detective (The Real Story)

And there was, like, witnesses that said that they saw me and this guy at a โ€“ because I'm a huge Bengals fan.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
When The Suspect Outsmarts The The Detective (The Real Story)

I guess people may have figured that out with, you know, my Facebook page or something like that.