Travis Kalanick

You wanted to say consciousness, but you stopped yourself.

Yeah, exactly.

Wow.

It's kind of mind-blowing.

It's really mind-blowing.

I don't know if you guys remember dark matter and the discovery of it and everything.

And as explained to me by Lisa Randall, the discovery was made not by knowing there was dark matter there and observing it, but observing there was something, gravitational forces around this other matter.

And then they said, well, wait, what's causing that?

And that's why they found dark matter.

So these ideas, the idea that an LLM could actually do that

come up with something so novel is it doesn't, it feels like we might be right there, right?

Like we're kind of on the cusp of it.

Meaning of the universe, yeah.

Yeah, and on a technical basis too, people forget how good Elon is at factories and physical real world things.

What he did standing up Colossus made like, Jensen Wan was like, how is this possible that you did this, right?

So pressing that, his ability to build factories, and he said many times like, the factory is the product of Tesla.

It's not the cars that come out of the factory or the batteries, it's the factory itself.

So if he can keep solving the energy problem with solar on one side and batteries and standing up, you know, Colossus 2, 3, 4, 5, he's going to have a massive advantage there on top of Travis, you know, the missionary...

Which, by the way, was what he backed before Sam Altman corrupted the original missionary basis of opening.

I made it closed AI and, you know, nothing derogatory towards him, but he did hoodwink and stab Elon in the back.