Travis Pastrana

Like, what are you passionate about?

What interests you?

Let's just go water the lawn, you know what I mean?

And put fertilizer on that grass to see if it can grow.

That's the, I mean, that's the way I took with my life.

I don't know if it's a scalable philosophy, but it worked out okay.

Do you think you can teach that risk versus reward matrix to get to somebody like using the cliff and tree analogy, like we're going to treat these as cones and when everybody else is going to back off, if I feel like I have it, I'm going to smash the pedal.

Most people would just ride that out, though.

They're not.

They're not even able to.

Well, first off.

People don't understand how many years it would take to get comfortable even attempting that jump in the first place.

Good call getting off the bike though.

That thing would have 100% chased you down.

So the interesting point about this is that- You're talking about being comfortable on the edges.

And I would say most of the people that I worked with were like that.

The selection process, processes, whatever it would be,

In my opinion, they select for people that look at obstacles as motivation, not adversity.

Like if they encounter something, they'll figure out a way to solve the problem.

And then over time, they start layering more complexity and more, what would be the best word for it?