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Trenton Bricken

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

Totally.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

And I think we're very used to chat interfaces, whether we're texting or using Google.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

And it's weird to think that the agent can actually go and fetch its own context and store its own facts into its memory system.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

And I still think that it's the nines of reliability.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

And if you scaffold the model correctly or prompt it, it can do much more sophisticated things than the average user assumes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

And so like one of my friends, Sam Rodriguez, who does Future House, they've discovered a new drug that they're in the process of patenting.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

And by the time this episode comes out, that will be live.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

What was that?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

LSD V2?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

Wait, is it really?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

No, they're not making LSD.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

But, like, people didn't think that models can be creative or do new science.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

Right.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

And it does just kind of seem like a skill issue.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

So this was just over a conversation, and so we'll need to refer to the full announcement.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

But my impression is that it was able to read a huge amount of medical literature and brainstorm and make new connections and then propose wet lab experiments that the humans did.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

And then through iteration on that, they verified that this, like, new compound does this thing that's really exciting.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

Okay.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

Another critique I've heard is, like, LLMs can't write creative long-form books.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

And I'm aware of at least two individuals who probably want to remain anonymous who have used LLMs to write long-form books.