Trevor Collins

And are there false positives?

Are there other things happening that kind of complicate this read?

But ultimately, around this time, it was estimated that the Fitzgerald was still only about 17 miles ahead of the Anderson.

And so it gives you an idea of how windy it was.

The sea breeze is kicking up.

The snow is coming down.

Very difficult to see.

Now, for some more specifics on this situation, I actually want to quote a passage from one article by the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum.

Here it is, quote, Captain Cooper maintained that he watched the Edmund Fitzgerald pass far too close to Six Fathom Shoal to the north of Caribou Island.

He could clearly see the ship and the beacon on Caribou on his radar set and could measure the distance between them.

and his officers watched the fitzgerald pass right over the dangerous area of shallow water by this time snow and rising spray had obscured the fitzgerald from sight visible 17 miles ahead on radar end quote so even then you know i guess it's because we know what's about to happen this feels extra terrifying but regardless

As a, not me, as a non-seasoned captain of a vessel, listen, I'm playing with Hot Wheels in my bathtub still.

Right.

Having these conditions settle upon your ship, I feel like is deeply haunting and kind of unnerving.

I would say...

On one hand, I mean, you make a great point.

It's a great question.

On one hand, these are veteran captains.

They've been through things like this before.

And so they know the confidence of their instruments.