Trevor Collins

We thought that this was some sort of like, maybe it was aliens, maybe it was ghosts, maybe it was something, divine intervention.

But we know actually a lot more about

But despite that, despite what we do factually know, we get to watch this thing take on a life of its own.

And I think for that reason, it's even more interesting than what we first started out to explore.

So it is a wild time.

And of course, you know, I love a little dabble with history.

This is a very interesting case to be sure.

But as you're hearing this, aside from Return of the King...

Does anything else stand out to you?

What are you feeling when you hear something like this?

It's in the midst of World War I. The British Expeditionary Force makes their debut, essentially, against the German Empire, which we'll talk about their army sizes, but they were vastly outnumbered.

It was tremendous.

I think what, you know, now that we've done this for five and a half years, I think there's, we've identified the deeper layers of intrigue in a lot of these topics.

Of course, the stories are all fascinating.

The theories, the what ifs, the what could be.

Yes.

All of that is so deeply fascinating.

But now you see the undercurrents of like, well, what really motivates something to really go?

Get into the zeitgeist.

Why is spiritualism such a big thing during the time of the turn of the Victorian era into the 20th century, which is kind of where we're at?