Trevor Collins

And, and that's why I really wanted to have this episode because we've dabbled with it every time they come up. Now I want to have a place where we point to the story, who they are, how they came to be. Why are they so prevalent? Because it is interesting.

A lot of their stories truly are interesting, even if made up, but also I wanted a place where we could have a nuanced conversation about all the things that have been levied at them, pointed to the quotes from the families who have experienced them and all of that.

A lot of their stories truly are interesting, even if made up, but also I wanted a place where we could have a nuanced conversation about all the things that have been levied at them, pointed to the quotes from the families who have experienced them and all of that.

A lot of their stories truly are interesting, even if made up, but also I wanted a place where we could have a nuanced conversation about all the things that have been levied at them, pointed to the quotes from the families who have experienced them and all of that.

Yeah, I mean, if you really want the answer, answer, you're right. It's going to be very hard to fully untangle the mess, especially since they have both since passed. But it leaves them with a very complex legacy. Opinions this way and that, believers, skeptics, cynics. Optimists, all things said. So anyway, it's all out on the table.

Yeah, I mean, if you really want the answer, answer, you're right. It's going to be very hard to fully untangle the mess, especially since they have both since passed. But it leaves them with a very complex legacy. Opinions this way and that, believers, skeptics, cynics. Optimists, all things said. So anyway, it's all out on the table.

Yeah, I mean, if you really want the answer, answer, you're right. It's going to be very hard to fully untangle the mess, especially since they have both since passed. But it leaves them with a very complex legacy. Opinions this way and that, believers, skeptics, cynics. Optimists, all things said. So anyway, it's all out on the table.

And in conclusion, you know, we know the Warrens now mostly for their well-known Conjuring franchise that they have helped inspire at least through their many investigations, right? Countless. Lorraine served as an executive producer for the films before her death in 2019, and Ed passed away in 2006 after years of declining health.

And in conclusion, you know, we know the Warrens now mostly for their well-known Conjuring franchise that they have helped inspire at least through their many investigations, right? Countless. Lorraine served as an executive producer for the films before her death in 2019, and Ed passed away in 2006 after years of declining health.

And in conclusion, you know, we know the Warrens now mostly for their well-known Conjuring franchise that they have helped inspire at least through their many investigations, right? Countless. Lorraine served as an executive producer for the films before her death in 2019, and Ed passed away in 2006 after years of declining health.

Though controversial, the legacy of the Warrens endure as a major influence on modern paranormal pop culture. And now you know a little bit more about these very interesting two individuals, these self-proclaimed paranormal investigators and demonologists and psychics and clairvoyants. But yeah, a lot of history. How did you feel about this, Fredo, having known about them for quite some time?

Though controversial, the legacy of the Warrens endure as a major influence on modern paranormal pop culture. And now you know a little bit more about these very interesting two individuals, these self-proclaimed paranormal investigators and demonologists and psychics and clairvoyants. But yeah, a lot of history. How did you feel about this, Fredo, having known about them for quite some time?

Though controversial, the legacy of the Warrens endure as a major influence on modern paranormal pop culture. And now you know a little bit more about these very interesting two individuals, these self-proclaimed paranormal investigators and demonologists and psychics and clairvoyants. But yeah, a lot of history. How did you feel about this, Fredo, having known about them for quite some time?

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, removing myself entirely from the situation, anyone who is of sufficient fame or richness is going to take on some criticisms and some of that is going to feel accurate or right. But my personal opinion on the matter, just having looked at all of this and having talked about many of these cases in depth is that they might've been interested in the occult.

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, removing myself entirely from the situation, anyone who is of sufficient fame or richness is going to take on some criticisms and some of that is going to feel accurate or right. But my personal opinion on the matter, just having looked at all of this and having talked about many of these cases in depth is that they might've been interested in the occult.

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, removing myself entirely from the situation, anyone who is of sufficient fame or richness is going to take on some criticisms and some of that is going to feel accurate or right. But my personal opinion on the matter, just having looked at all of this and having talked about many of these cases in depth is that they might've been interested in the occult.

They might've been interested in these haunted houses. You know, you and I have done this where we dabble. We'll debunk everything we can and everything we can't. We're very honest about. We talked to the task force about. We said, give us your comments. What'd you see? Let's look at it. Let's take another pass.

They might've been interested in these haunted houses. You know, you and I have done this where we dabble. We'll debunk everything we can and everything we can't. We're very honest about. We talked to the task force about. We said, give us your comments. What'd you see? Let's look at it. Let's take another pass.

They might've been interested in these haunted houses. You know, you and I have done this where we dabble. We'll debunk everything we can and everything we can't. We're very honest about. We talked to the task force about. We said, give us your comments. What'd you see? Let's look at it. Let's take another pass.

But maybe I can see this where they went from interest to, hey, there's maybe something here. Maybe we can turn this into stories to sell, books or movies. And so suddenly... they start to develop more knowledge or opinions or abilities. And with a not-so-documented track record, I can see that elevating.