Trevor Hughes

Yeah, Howell was talking a lot about the president's desire to bring back manufacturing to this country.

We refer to the Rust Belt because of the industrial sort of base of America, which really has been hollowed out.

You go to cities like Omaha, you go to cities like Kansas City, and sometimes they feel disheartened

very empty compared to their heyday when there were millions and millions of people working in factories, working in manufacturing.

And so, you know, Howell expressed something that I've heard over and over from a lot of Americans, which is if we built more things in America, if we built and bought more things from America, we would be better off as a country.

And they are really pleased to see President Trump making that a priority.

Of course.

Well, let's be clear. ICE is deporting people who are criminal suspects when it comes to immigration violations. They consider those people criminals on that hand. What we're talking about here are people who are accused of local crimes, assaults, theft, carjackings, that kind of thing.

Well, let's be clear. ICE is deporting people who are criminal suspects when it comes to immigration violations. They consider those people criminals on that hand. What we're talking about here are people who are accused of local crimes, assaults, theft, carjackings, that kind of thing.

And so what we're seeing is that ICE is increasingly, instead of keeping those folks around and letting the local court process play out, letting those folks get sentenced to 5, 10, 15 years in prison, ICE is simply collecting those folks, detaining them, and in many cases, deporting them. So in terms of the potential problems here, Trevor, what are legal experts really concerned about?

And so what we're seeing is that ICE is increasingly, instead of keeping those folks around and letting the local court process play out, letting those folks get sentenced to 5, 10, 15 years in prison, ICE is simply collecting those folks, detaining them, and in many cases, deporting them. So in terms of the potential problems here, Trevor, what are legal experts really concerned about?

You have two problems, really. The first is that there are criminal suspects in these cases who are escaping prosecution in the United States.

You have two problems, really. The first is that there are criminal suspects in these cases who are escaping prosecution in the United States.

As one expert told me, you could have a guy accused of a serious crime in the United States agree to be deported by ICE and be on the streets in Mexico or Venezuela within days or weeks with no punishment whatsoever, except for that removal order from the United States. And we know that people have come back to the United States under the Trump administration already.

As one expert told me, you could have a guy accused of a serious crime in the United States agree to be deported by ICE and be on the streets in Mexico or Venezuela within days or weeks with no punishment whatsoever, except for that removal order from the United States. And we know that people have come back to the United States under the Trump administration already.

The second concern is that in some cases, ICE has deported the witnesses or the victims in these cases.

The second concern is that in some cases, ICE has deported the witnesses or the victims in these cases.

And so what's happening, according to some of the DAs and some of the public defenders I talk to around the country, is that people are less willing to come to court and testify if they feel like they're going to be deported or perhaps the case against their assailant has to be dropped because the witnesses were deported.

And so what's happening, according to some of the DAs and some of the public defenders I talk to around the country, is that people are less willing to come to court and testify if they feel like they're going to be deported or perhaps the case against their assailant has to be dropped because the witnesses were deported.

You know, I think we're still starting to or maybe only just beginning to understand the ramifications of what this really means. For years, ICE has detained people illegally. and then brought them back to court for their appearances. That happens all the time.