Trevor Noah

No, never heard of Gurdjieff.

Turned out my next-door neighbor's father was into Gurdjieff, so he had introduced me to this.

So I was already primed a bit into mankind is asleep and we have to wake up.

But you're hitting on another universal point that's really...

demanding, underlining, and with a red pencil, that the ideologies have truthful, important things in it.

And they quote famous people who say really important things.

So it's not just all BS.

And that's also, as a therapist, that's what I try to do in helping my clients deconstruct

How did they get hooked?

What were the pieces that hooked them?

And the technique, I'm jumping ahead and I'll circle back to your earlier question, but the technique that's most effective is I empower my clients to understand Chinese communist brainwashing, my model, etc.

And the technique is this simple.

I ask people to go back to that critical earlier moment when they were getting recruited or they were falling in love with someone who was a malignant narcissist that was going to ruin their lives.

If you knew then what you know now, what would you say and do differently?

And I have them reprocess because they didn't know what they didn't know.

But if I knew it was the Moonies, that this fat Korean billionaire was a pervert and involved with the Korean CIA and the Washington Times, etc., I would have said, you're not students.

Get the hell out of here.

I'm calling security.

But the point is it's a dissociative disorder.

I was using my hands before.