Trevor Noah

But he wasn't...

It makes you wonder about, you know, you spent, since 1989, this fatwa is put upon you, and it's these fundamentalists, and these are religious extremists who have decided they're going to punish you for whatever their reasoning was.

You write, though, that this gentleman is sort of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of that.

Yes.

But it's... I wonder if you think of it, does it strike you as a change in fundamentalism?

You know, you say he was radicalized by Iman YouTubi, that he watched YouTube videos.

And do you think this attack had more to do with

like John Lennon's attack or with a religious attack?

Right.

I think I know where this is going.

That is how we describe it as well, by the way.

He's got that New Jersey brain.

Exactly.

Do you think that there is a shift?

You know, we think of fundamentalism as primarily a religious artifact, right?

Have the algorithms made fundamentalism something different from that?

Yeah, as I read the story, I started thinking, you know, we're so used to this idea of violence with a cause, this idea that there is something deep inside them that can almost be noble or understandable.

This is not that.

It struck me more as more in common with the school shootings we see here or the other things that you were just this thing he saw.

Wow.