Tricia Hersey
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first heard Mar 2025
last heard Mar 2025
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Exactly. Oh, my God. I love her. Like, yes. You get it. Like, thank God. Yes. People keep saying that to me. And I really have so much empathy and compassion for them because I understand that the systems have socialized us since birth. Even sometimes before birth, when I talk about my son in the book, about my birth story with him, like the systems socialize and brainwash us from birth.
Everything is in collaboration, teaching us these things. And so when I see people who like they desperate, like there's that sound good, but I can't do it. And then I think about the people who are like typing me long messages. four paragraph emails telling me why they can't rest. And I'm like, wow, that was five minutes of daydreaming right there. You're going to have to make choices.
You're going to have to see your way out and have perspective around. There's always time to rest. And I believe that the true resistance part of rest is resistance is what we really got to start to uncover a little more. This is not going to be easy work. We are trying to disrupt and push back against very violent systems. Grind culture is violence. White supremacy is violent.
All these things are violent systems that are raging on us. And so to think that it is going to be easy, to think that there isn't going to have to be some type of subversion, some type of inventive, imaginative. I think about my ancestors, I call it the trickster energy, the being able to exist in two different worlds, being able to build community within a culture that was so toxic and violent.
My grandmother working two jobs, raising eight children, healing from post-traumatic stress because she left Mississippi after seeing a lynching during Jim Crow terrorism. She came to Chicago. I say my ancestors floated on a spaceship that they built out of uncertainty and hope. They floated up north, away from the south, hoping for a new world.
And they built new worlds within a world that didn't want them free, that didn't see them as human beings. And so that's the resistance I pulled to. And no one can tell me that something is impossible. Like, I don't believe it. I know a lot of people are in a place of feeling like there is impossibility. But manifestos in this work provoke impossibility.
That's the whole purpose of them is for us to imagine something that's impossible. And so I think about my grandmother, Ora, who's taking a nap, who's resting her eyes 30 minutes to an hour every single day in between going to her two jobs. She had on her uniform from working at the hospital as a nursing assistant, still got her whites on. She'd be sitting on the couch with her eyes closed.
Eight children, dozens of grandchildren. I'm one of her wild grandchildren running in and out of her house, screaming, jumping on couch. She didn't move. That woman sat on that couch and held court for her own healing. And we began to watch that and we began to respect that. Grandma's resting. She's sleeping. We'd be like, Grandma's sleeping. Chill out. You know, be quiet.
She'd say, I'm not sleeping. I'm resting my eyes, you know, every shut eye ain't sleep. I'm listening. She would say, I'm listening to God. I'm listening to the universe. I'm simply listening. And I wonder what was that listening giving her, you know, to be a black woman in Chicago, you know, poverty all around her, raising all these children and,
trying to have a way and have a new life outside of the South and the terror of that. What was she listening to? What was she hearing? What was the silence? What was that evoking for her? What was this resting moment giving her? And so she becomes the muse because I watched her... I watched her make space for her own rest every single day. I watched her slow down. I watched her uplift leisure.
And so we're going to have to reimagine rest. The reimagination, you're going to have to look at rest as not just being what you think it is.
a full nap away from the kids with the pillow up closed eyes eye mask on closed door nobody that's beautiful like give me more of that but in this culture that's not going to be possible for all people it's going to have to be reimagined ways of my grandmother resting on the couch with her eyes closed for 30 minutes centering her own body and her own self while all of the world was still happening around her she didn't care she was going to sit on that couch and
And do that. And so I love that about her. I love about my dad waking up early before his job to sit and pray and read the paper. And I was like, why do you get up so early? He's like, because I want to have a moment where I can be human and not be on someone's clock and I can just be. So this idea of just being.
And so I want people to take a deep breath, take a little breather, slow down and understand that this rest work and this rest time
idea is a meticulous love practice that will happen to us for the rest of our day there is no rush to get it right right now there's grace there's mercy there's imagination there's taking a walk there's having a cup of tea in the morning that's taking a longer shower all of these things are rests all of these things are opportunities for us to connect with our body and mind and so
People get really desperate and really panicked about this idea because it's a paradigm shift. It's a mind shift. It's a full on shifting of your mind to understand that your rest is not a luxury. It is not something that you will add on once you're burnt out. It really is the center of your life. It has to be the North Star in a culture like this without a pause button.
if you aren't centering rest and snatching rest and getting rest any way you can and making space for others to rest and looking at the ways in which you participate in grind culture, that you participate in white supremacy, that you participate in all these things, like, this is a full-on looking at yourself in a mirror and a full-on healing modality.
It's not just take a nap and get up and keep being racist, you know? Naps ain't gonna save you. You know, if you... You haven't done that internal work to really... Go back to sleep. You're not ready yet. That's not going to save you if you're looking at them as just that. You're not looking at this as a full-on political social justice deprogramming.
Yes. So we can resist. So we can give a pushback and a disruption. To take a nap and to resist and to say, no, I'm not going to be on the clock right now to intentionally rest even for 10 minutes a day. That is a disruption to this beast of a machine. I know people don't see themselves as being their one person being part of something that can change. But it is like you doing that.
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