Tristan Harris

And that is not going to create a safe world.

Again, that's a version of the narrative, the possible of a technology that we're promised and then the probable of what's actually happening.

Yes, exactly.

And we saw this with social media.

We thought it was going to create the most enlightened and informed society in the entire world because we have the best information.

It wrecked our attention and we have the most confirmation bias, tribalized, low trust, worst critical thinking society that we've had in a generation.

And so again, I think this is just about

part of the wisdom we need is to be able to look honestly at the nature of a technology and look honestly and confront ourselves with the reality of how technology is currently being used and deployed.

And if it's driving up, you know, a social media influencer culture instead of creating astronauts, like, you know, in China, they pulled the top

um what are the the professions the kids want the most and the number one was like astronaut number two was like teacher engineer and then teacher or something like that and in the u.s it was influencer like i can tell you which world and which civilization you're going to get if we really want to beat china in innovation show me the incentives and i'll show you the outcome show me the incentive and i'll show you the outcome and if you really want to beat china

You regulate social media and you stop brain rotting your entire population and you actually invest in genuine educational technology that Silicon Valley would ship to their own children.

global movement for humane technology that's actually in service of people.

Part of that movement is redefining the currency of what it means to win that race.

Right now, again, the US beat China to the technology of social media, but we have been losing in the race to govern that technology.

I think you know these examples, but...

In China, as an example, they, I think, limit social media use to 40 minutes a day if you're under the age of 14.

And I think it's only Friday, Saturdays, and Sundays.

Either that's for social media or for video games.

There's lights out at 10 PM, meaning that if you open a social media app after 10 PM, it's closed.

And it opens again at 6 in the morning.