Tristan Harris

It's just meant to clarify.

And if we have clarity about where we're headed with AI, then we can choose what we want to choose.

And the emphasis is on agency, on choice.

What do we actually want here?

But I'm so grateful to be back with you on the program.

Yeah.

Well, as you said, back in 1945, all of us saw the photos and later videos of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and we saw, we knew intuitively the destructive power of nuclear weapons.

Everybody got that evidence because there was a catastrophe.

And with AI, most people's experience, let's just tune into it.

There you are, you use chat GPT, your baby's burping in the background, and boom, you have a blinking cursor that tells you to

exactly what you need to know so why in the world are we talking about ai as if it's nuclear weapons this seems bizarre and the truth is that what this blinking cursor this friendly face obscures is that behind that blinking cursor are essentially like five soon-to-be trillionaires who are racing to create as you just said artificial general intelligence they're racing to be able to replace

all human economic labor in the economy.

Everything that a human mind can do, all the marketing jobs, all the sales, all the media jobs, all the financial analyst jobs, every job, mathematicians, physicists, AI is going to be able to do all of those things.

I think something your audience needs to know is, are these companies in a race to support the American worker?

Are they in a race to augment and support you?

Well, let me just break this down because I think it's so important for people to get.

These companies have taken on so much investment.

This is literally more money has been invested into this than any other technology in human history.

And they can't make up that investment if everybody just paid for a chat GPT subscription.

If everybody paid 20 bucks a month, that's not enough to make back their investment.