Tristan Harris

We have to fight back against the default path.

Be pro-technology, but for steering AI, not stopping it.

How could AI physically eliminate the human race?

It's actually hard to imagine all the ways AIs could wipe humans out.

AI is already better than almost all humans at doing cyber hacking.

And so you could imagine one of the things that an AI could do is take out all electricity, water, hospitals, transportation across every country in the world all at once.

Now, that doesn't wipe us all out, but you could imagine the amount of damage that that would do.

Confusion and chaos and craziness.

Exactly.

And we're only, you know, five missed meals away from anarchy.

Did you say we're only five missed meals away from anarchy?

Yeah.

Think about what happens in New York City if you can't get food.

Yeah.

I don't think a lot of people have thought about that.

Hello and welcome to the Oprah podcast.

Artificial intelligence is woven into the fabric of our daily lives, but there are so many experts and maybe you too, who have concerns, grave concerns, some people do, about its unchecked power.

while others are optimistic that it's going to transform our lives for the better.

It already has for many of us.

So what do you think?