Tristan Harris

I'm just gonna, sorry, I don't mean to interrupt you.

You're on a flow.

I just, I just, I'm not really following, because you're using language like super intelligence and like smarter than all of humanity, and I hear that, and it sounds like sci-fi bullshit to me, and I'm just...

trying to understand uh hopefully we can have a very symbiotic relationship uh with ai systems but the ai developers are specifically designing them to make sure that they can do everything better than we can so i don't know what what we will be able to offer unfortunately that sounds bad well daniel is in europe working on his next film so he's joining us via zoom hi daniel

Hi, Oprah.

How are you?

So good today and happy to talk to you.

And the audience here has just seen your film.

You started this project not knowing a lot about AI, as you say in the film.

So why did you want to make this?

Well, first and foremost, Oprah, thank you so much for having me.

This conversation is so meaningful.

Why did I want to make this movie?

I was scared.

Like a lot of people, I was seeing this new technology sort of proliferate and come into existence and begin to dominate headlines.

And it made me really nervous as I understood or began to understand what it meant and how much change would proliferate.

And at the exact same time, my wife and I found out that we were expecting our first child, a son.

And, you know, I was simultaneously experiencing the greatest joy one can experience, but also this profound anxiety and dread.

And with a group of my colleagues, an amazing team of filmmakers, we set out to make a documentary to try and understand what this is, why it's amazing, why it's scary, and how everyone should be thinking about it as it pertains to their own lives.

So you walked away and felt what?