Tristan Harris

I wake up every day, this is the number one thing I think about.

Now look, I'm human and has every decision been perfect?

Can I even say my motivations were always perfectly clear?

Of course not, no one can say that.

That's just not like...

All of this was going to happen.

This train isn't going to stop.

You can't step in front of the train and stop it.

You're just going to get squished.

That's the question.

And I have to say, after watching the film, I still have a lot of concerns and unanswered questions.

So what is your frame of mind or point of view on what the companies are doing and controlling it, especially in terms of regulation?

Well, Oprah, I think you're right to be concerned.

I think if you're not concerned, you're not paying attention.

I know.

I can't remember who in the film said that it's going to be a great utopia.

And I thought, since when have human beings made a utopia?

And if there is a utopia for some people, it means a lot of people are going to be left out of that utopian version.

Just fundamentally, I think anybody who claims to have a clear-eyed vision of what the future is going to be, take that with a grain of salt.

If someone tells you, oh, it's going to be the greatest thing since sliced bread, that's hyperbolic.