Tristan Harris

Because now the companies don't need you for their labor and governments don't need you for your tax revenue.

This is called the intelligence curse that much like –

You know, there are countries that discovered a natural resource like Congo or Sudan or Venezuela.

And when all of their GDP starts to come from that resource, what was a blessing of that resource becomes a curse because now the entire country kind of organizes itself around mining that resource.

Well, in the case of intelligence, AI is the new resource.

It's the new thing that's going to drive all economic growth.

And the reason I'm saying this is not to scare your listeners.

It's so that we can get crystal clear that these five companies and the five soon to be trillionaires that are running them, they don't have the interests of regular people at heart.

Um, and we can talk more about that, but I think it's just so important for you to get that.

Yeah.

Well, I think the way we... I mean, it's not just about stopping, it's steering.

I always say, people always say, well, how could we possibly do something different because we're in a race with China, right?

Well, yes, we're in a race with China, but also the AI companies have been using a boogeyman of China to say, that's why you have to keep funding us and keep accelerating us.

We should just also be aware that the companies are using that narrative to drive up their goals and drive up investment into their products so that they can win against their competitors.

But one thing we should say about the race is...

What are we in a race for?

Because if we know

of social media.

We built a psychological bazooka called social media, but then we didn't actually govern it well, so we sort of spun it around and blew our own brain off.

Did that make us stronger or weaker as a country?