Tristan Harris

I know.

I can't remember who in the film said that it's going to be a great utopia.

And I thought, since when have human beings made a utopia?

And if there is a utopia for some people, it means a lot of people are going to be left out of that utopian version.

Just fundamentally, I think anybody who claims to have a clear-eyed vision of what the future is going to be, take that with a grain of salt.

If someone tells you, oh, it's going to be the greatest thing since sliced bread, that's hyperbolic.

And if someone says it's going to be doom and gloom and the world's going to end in five years, take that with a grain of salt.

The reality and nuance is far more complicated.

But of course we have reasons to be concerned.

This is really scary.

This is really intense.

There's no other way about it.

And that's why the forces that are trying to get this right, to just bend the most powerful corporations in the history of the planet,

and governments and all of these powerful organizations to try and institute common sense.

What I want everybody listening to think about is how this impacts their own lives and what agency they have as it pertains to their own lives.

You have a lot of power because you have such an audience and so we're talking about this and that matters.

But for someone who's a teacher or a truck driver or a dentist or a plumber, in your sphere of influence, how can you think critically

about these issues, think critically about how this technology is incorporated into your systems, and make sure that you set the standards for how this is used and incorporated versus... Well, how are we going to do that?

How are we going to do that?

We're just some regular people out here.