Tristan Harris

Like no one ever talked about like Siri taking over the world or causing catastrophes.

Well, it's great to see you both again.

Good to be with you, Oprah.

Since that time, I had my mind blown by your presentation at a conference.

So what's so confusing to so many people is that this idea, Tristan, that AI can think on its own and will be able to eventually make decisions without a human being involved.

And I want to know, can you explain that or how that will happen?

Yeah, I think, first of all, thank you so much for hosting this conversation.

We think that this movie and this conversation is the most important thing that we really need to face right now as a society and as a culture.

And the degree to which we have clarity about what makes AI different and dangerous is the degree to which we will choose another path and we can choose another path.

So the question you asked is really what makes AI different from other technologies?

Yeah, you were saying it's greater than any of the other technologies combined because... Yes, well, first of all, so what is intelligence?

When you think about a chat GPT, a lot of people when they use technology, that technology was programmed line by line.

Some computer programmer said, when you do this, I want you to do this.

What makes AI different is you're actually simulating all of the kinds of things that a human brain can do.

Like what makes your brain intelligent?

Pattern recognition.

You can take in audio and you can turn that into speech.

Planning, you can do strategy.

And so now you have this different kind of technology called AI that can do military strategy better than the best US generals.

It can see invisible patterns that human can't see.