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Tristan Harris

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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

Demis Hassabis, the co-founder of Google DeepMind, used to say, first solve intelligence and then use that to solve everything else.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

It's important to say, why is AI distinct from all other kinds of technologies?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

It's because if I make an advance in one field like rocketry, let's say I uncover some secret in rocketry, that doesn't advance biomedicine knowledge or doesn't advance energy production or doesn't advance coding.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

Right?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

But if I can advance generalized intelligence, think about all science and technology development over the course of all human history.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

So science and technology is all done by humans thinking and working out problems, working out problems in any domain.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

So if I automate intelligence, I'm suddenly going to get an explosion of all scientific and technological development happening.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

Everywhere.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

Does that make sense?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

Of course, yeah.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

It's foundational to everything.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

Exactly.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

Which is why there's a belief that if I get there first and can automate generalized intelligence...

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

I can own the world economy because suddenly everything that a human can do that they would be paid to do in a job, the AI can do that better.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

And so if I'm a company, do I want to pay the human who has health care, might whistleblow, complains, has to sleep, has sick days, has family issues?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

Or do I want to pay the AI that will work 24-7 at superhuman speed, doesn't complain, doesn't whistleblow, doesn't have to be paid for health care?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

there's the incentive for everyone to move to paying for AIs rather than paying humans.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

And so AGI, artificial general intelligence, is more transformative than any other kind of technology that we've ever had.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

And it's distinct.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

It's not clear how long it will take.