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Tristan Harris

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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

It'll take that action autonomously.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

We have examples where if you tell an AI model reading a fictional AI company's email, so it's reading the email of the company and it finds out in the email that the plan is to replace this AI model.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

So it realizes it's about to get replaced.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

And then it also reads in the company email that one executive is having an affair with the other employee.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

And the AI will independently come up with the strategy that I need to blackmail that executive in order to keep myself alive.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

That was Claude, right?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

That was Claude.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

By Anthropic.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

By Anthropic.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

But then what happened is Anthropic tested all of the leading AI models from DeepSeek, OpenAI, ChatGPT, Gemini, XAI, and all of them do that blackmail behavior between 79% and 96% of the time.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

DeepSeek did it 79% of the time.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

I think XAI might have done it 96% of the time.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

Maybe Claude did it 96% of the time.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

So the point is, the assumption behind AI is that it's controllable technology, that we will get to choose what it does.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

But AI is distinct from other technologies because it is uncontrollable.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

It acts generally.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

The whole benefit is that it's going to do powerful strategic things no matter what you throw at it.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

So the same benefit of its generality is also what makes it so dangerous.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

And so once you tell people these examples of it's blackmailing people, it's self-aware of when it's being tested and alters its behavior.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

It's copying and self-replicating its own code.