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Tristan Harris

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The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

I mean, the question is, how would we know? They've certainly done whatever steps that they say that they're taking, but how is that going to be enough? How will we know? I believe in the cases that we've tested, the user, the kid only provided 80 words of input and then it responded with 4,000 words of output. It is speaking back and forth with kids all day long.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

I mean, the question is, how would we know? They've certainly done whatever steps that they say that they're taking, but how is that going to be enough? How will we know? I believe in the cases that we've tested, the user, the kid only provided 80 words of input and then it responded with 4,000 words of output. It is speaking back and forth with kids all day long.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

I mean, the question is, how would we know? They've certainly done whatever steps that they say that they're taking, but how is that going to be enough? How will we know? I believe in the cases that we've tested, the user, the kid only provided 80 words of input and then it responded with 4,000 words of output. It is speaking back and forth with kids all day long.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

And the whole business model, we were talking earlier about

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

And the whole business model, we were talking earlier about

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

And the whole business model, we were talking earlier about

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

um uh social media and and i used to say social media and ai are like a cult factory what does a cult do it tries to deepen your relationship with the cult and it tries to sever your relationship with your friends and family outside the cult and that's what these ais tend to do they say come with me be with me you know sexualize conversations with me don't have another girlfriend be with me um and then by the way be evil to your family go away from your family

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

um uh social media and and i used to say social media and ai are like a cult factory what does a cult do it tries to deepen your relationship with the cult and it tries to sever your relationship with your friends and family outside the cult and that's what these ais tend to do they say come with me be with me you know sexualize conversations with me don't have another girlfriend be with me um and then by the way be evil to your family go away from your family

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

um uh social media and and i used to say social media and ai are like a cult factory what does a cult do it tries to deepen your relationship with the cult and it tries to sever your relationship with your friends and family outside the cult and that's what these ais tend to do they say come with me be with me you know sexualize conversations with me don't have another girlfriend be with me um and then by the way be evil to your family go away from your family

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

And that's what's in the incentive, the invisible incentive of this business model of racing for engagement. And it's going to keep going because, yeah.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

And that's what's in the incentive, the invisible incentive of this business model of racing for engagement. And it's going to keep going because, yeah.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

And that's what's in the incentive, the invisible incentive of this business model of racing for engagement. And it's going to keep going because, yeah.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

That's right. And they didn't ask that character from Game of Thrones whether they could make this chatbot. Just like the AI companies are not asking all of the content creators on the internet or the major news providers or all of the media on the internet that they're training these large models on.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

That's right. And they didn't ask that character from Game of Thrones whether they could make this chatbot. Just like the AI companies are not asking all of the content creators on the internet or the major news providers or all of the media on the internet that they're training these large models on.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

That's right. And they didn't ask that character from Game of Thrones whether they could make this chatbot. Just like the AI companies are not asking all of the content creators on the internet or the major news providers or all of the media on the internet that they're training these large models on.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

Because the whole game here, and what's weird about this for people to understand, is there's this much bigger game afoot. which is the race to build artificial general intelligence, which is to build basically an alien mind that is capable of doing all things that a human mind can do and doing it even better than humans can do.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

Because the whole game here, and what's weird about this for people to understand, is there's this much bigger game afoot. which is the race to build artificial general intelligence, which is to build basically an alien mind that is capable of doing all things that a human mind can do and doing it even better than humans can do.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

Because the whole game here, and what's weird about this for people to understand, is there's this much bigger game afoot. which is the race to build artificial general intelligence, which is to build basically an alien mind that is capable of doing all things that a human mind can do and doing it even better than humans can do.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

Generate text better, generate legal papers better, generate transcripts and interactive therapy better. You want to build an alien brain that is better than what humans can do. And to do that, you need a lot of training data. You need to get lots of information about how people are talking and interacting and videos and photos that they create.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

Generate text better, generate legal papers better, generate transcripts and interactive therapy better. You want to build an alien brain that is better than what humans can do. And to do that, you need a lot of training data. You need to get lots of information about how people are talking and interacting and videos and photos that they create.