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Tristan Harris

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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

When we're talking to each other, we do reality checking.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

If you came to me and said something a little bit strange, I might look at you a little bit like this or say, I wouldn't give you just positive feedback and keep affirming your view and then give you more information that matches with what you're saying.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

But AI is different because it's designed to break that reality checking process.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

It's just giving you information that would say, well, that's a great question.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

You notice how every time it answers, it says, that's a great question.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

And there's even a term that someone at The Atlantic coined called not clickbait, but chatbait.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

Have you noticed that when you ask it a question at the end, instead of just being done, it'll say, would you like me to put this into a table for you and do research on what the 10 top examples of the thing you're talking about is?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

It leads you.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

And why does it do that?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

Spend more time on the platform.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

Actually, there are reports that OpenAI is exploring the advertising-based business model.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

That would be a catastrophe because then all of these services are designed to just get your attention, which means appealing to your existing confirmation bias.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

And we're already seeing examples of that even though we don't even have the advertising-based business model.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

Yes.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

Which is concerning.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

There only seems to be one direction of this trend, which is that more people are leaving, not staying and saying, yeah, we're doing more safety and doing it right.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

The only one company that seems to be getting all the safety people when they leave, and that's Anthropic.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

So for people who don't know the history, Dario Amadei was the CEO of Anthropic, a big AI company.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

He worked on safety at OpenAI.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

And he left to start Anthropic because he said, we're not doing this safely enough.