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Tristan Harris

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The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

And when you think of steering AI, I think of that image of Elon steering this rocket coming down from space, which is like using AI itself to help steer really precisely how to land this rocket between the two chopsticks. And I feel like that's what we need to do with AI metaphorically. We need things like, there's some common sense things we can do like liability.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

And when you think of steering AI, I think of that image of Elon steering this rocket coming down from space, which is like using AI itself to help steer really precisely how to land this rocket between the two chopsticks. And I feel like that's what we need to do with AI metaphorically. We need things like, there's some common sense things we can do like liability.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

If companies were liable for the harms their AI models created, they would be much more careful about releasing those models rather than I have to race to release it and capture the kid's market share because if I don't, I'll lose to the other company that will. And so if you have some basic common sense protections like liability, that'll go a long way. We can also have things like-

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

If companies were liable for the harms their AI models created, they would be much more careful about releasing those models rather than I have to race to release it and capture the kid's market share because if I don't, I'll lose to the other company that will. And so if you have some basic common sense protections like liability, that'll go a long way. We can also have things like-

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

If companies were liable for the harms their AI models created, they would be much more careful about releasing those models rather than I have to race to release it and capture the kid's market share because if I don't, I'll lose to the other company that will. And so if you have some basic common sense protections like liability, that'll go a long way. We can also have things like-

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

That's a good question. I mean, I think it's up to them right now to figure out a strategy to do that. But in the long run, you would really want that to be something that is on the device, right? That Apple and Google, as kind of making the device, should have some way of knowing that someone is an underage user or not.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

That's a good question. I mean, I think it's up to them right now to figure out a strategy to do that. But in the long run, you would really want that to be something that is on the device, right? That Apple and Google, as kind of making the device, should have some way of knowing that someone is an underage user or not.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

That's a good question. I mean, I think it's up to them right now to figure out a strategy to do that. But in the long run, you would really want that to be something that is on the device, right? That Apple and Google, as kind of making the device, should have some way of knowing that someone is an underage user or not.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

And the problem is that people don't want to touch these issues because they're so sensitive. And so they'll only do something like that once they're really forced to through lawsuits, litigation, legislation that kind of puts it on them. Right now, each company, TikTok, Instagram, Snapchat, are doing their own different approaches. And we really should have a unified approach.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

And the problem is that people don't want to touch these issues because they're so sensitive. And so they'll only do something like that once they're really forced to through lawsuits, litigation, legislation that kind of puts it on them. Right now, each company, TikTok, Instagram, Snapchat, are doing their own different approaches. And we really should have a unified approach.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

And the problem is that people don't want to touch these issues because they're so sensitive. And so they'll only do something like that once they're really forced to through lawsuits, litigation, legislation that kind of puts it on them. Right now, each company, TikTok, Instagram, Snapchat, are doing their own different approaches. And we really should have a unified approach.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

Yeah, that's a great question, Megan. I think it's great that the Australian government is taking this step and taking a strong stand on protecting kids online and responding to parents that are fed up with this. I'm a big friend and fan of Jonathan Haidt and his new book, The Anxious Generation, which really outlined over the last decade and a half.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

Yeah, that's a great question, Megan. I think it's great that the Australian government is taking this step and taking a strong stand on protecting kids online and responding to parents that are fed up with this. I'm a big friend and fan of Jonathan Haidt and his new book, The Anxious Generation, which really outlined over the last decade and a half.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

Yeah, that's a great question, Megan. I think it's great that the Australian government is taking this step and taking a strong stand on protecting kids online and responding to parents that are fed up with this. I'm a big friend and fan of Jonathan Haidt and his new book, The Anxious Generation, which really outlined over the last decade and a half.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

how we got here and how with this business model of maximizing attention and engagement, it produced a generation of more addicted, distracted, you know, sexualized, harassed children that have more anxiety, more depression rates than ever before. And while we all, you know, parents do have a responsibility to, you know, be aware of what their children are doing online.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

how we got here and how with this business model of maximizing attention and engagement, it produced a generation of more addicted, distracted, you know, sexualized, harassed children that have more anxiety, more depression rates than ever before. And while we all, you know, parents do have a responsibility to, you know, be aware of what their children are doing online.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

how we got here and how with this business model of maximizing attention and engagement, it produced a generation of more addicted, distracted, you know, sexualized, harassed children that have more anxiety, more depression rates than ever before. And while we all, you know, parents do have a responsibility to, you know, be aware of what their children are doing online.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

One of the things we talk about in our work though, is that the number of things to be aware of is going up sort of like exponentially. And, you know, The number of new apps are going up exponentially, and parents can't be aware of all at the same time.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

One of the things we talk about in our work though, is that the number of things to be aware of is going up sort of like exponentially. And, you know, The number of new apps are going up exponentially, and parents can't be aware of all at the same time.

The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967

One of the things we talk about in our work though, is that the number of things to be aware of is going up sort of like exponentially. And, you know, The number of new apps are going up exponentially, and parents can't be aware of all at the same time.