Tristan Harris

And that's the thing.

So people may hear that and they're like, well, that sounds ridiculous.

But if you actually... I just got goosebumps because it's the perfect description, especially the part they'll think they'll die either way.

Exactly.

Well, and worse than that...

Some of them think that in the case where they – if they were to get it right and if they succeeded, they could actually live forever.

Because if AI perfectly speaks the language of biology, it will be able to reverse aging, cure every disease.

And so there's this kind of I could become a god.

And I'll tell you, you and I both know people who've had private conversations.

Well, one of them that I have heard from one of the co-founders of one of the most powerful of these companies, when faced with the idea that what if there's an 80% or 20% chance that everybody dies and gets wiped out by this, but an 80% chance that we get utopia, he said, well, I would clearly accelerate and go for the utopia.

Given a 20% chance.

It's crazy.

People should feel you do not get to make that choice on behalf of me and my family.

We didn't consent to have six people make that decision on behalf of 8 billion people.

We have to stop pretending that this is okay or normal.

It's not normal.

And the only way that this is happening and they're getting away with it is because most people just don't really know what's going on.

But I'm curious, what do you think?

Yes.

That's what I had heard in this particular situation.