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Tristan Harris

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Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

Like if I did a brain scan in your brain, could I know from just the brain scan what you're capable of?

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

No, I can see that this part of your brain lights up when you have that thought, but I can't have a comprehensive picture of like, what is everything that Chris is capable of?

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

Can he do sociopathic manipulation and do better military strategy than the best US generals?

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

Like from the brain scan, I can't tell that.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

Maybe you can.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

But so with AI, we are essentially, you know, when people hear about these huge data centers getting built out, like Facebook's building one or Meta's building one, the size of Manhattan, right?

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And you ask, what's going on there?

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#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

It's like they're building a bigger and bigger digital brain.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

That's what goes from GPT-3 to GPT-4, with more neurons.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

When you hear the number of parameters of an AI model, that's essentially the number of neurons in an AI model.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And what they found is that the more GPUs and NVIDIA chips you point at growing this digital brain, the more intelligent it gets, and the more it picks up capabilities that we didn't intentionally teach it.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

There was a famous example where...

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#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

You just train it on the internet, and then it's answering questions in English, and suddenly it learns how to answer questions in Farsi, like doing Q&A in a different language.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And no one taught it that language.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

It just sort of learned that on its own.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And that's what's weird about AI is that it's a black box.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

We don't really understand how it works, and yet we're making it more powerful much faster than understanding how it works.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And that's what leads it to make these more unexpected behaviors that we aren't able to control.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And I think we're going to get into some of those.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

Yes.