Tristan Harris

ask the question of which future we're headed towards, because I think this can feel technical, this can feel overwhelming.

And it's kind of like, if you just turn it into some simple metaphors, it's like, haven't we seen this movie before?

Like, HAL 9000, AIs that disobey commands and go rogue.

We've seen that movie.

Yeah, I see what you're saying.

But let's just make sure we just tackle the thing you're saying.

So the claim is that because we've had bad sci-fi movies, you and I, Chris, are the dupes.

We're falling for this Alibaba example that was somehow not real, was made up, or that OpenAI's research on the AI models scheming and lying and realizing it needs to change its behavior so it doesn't look like it's when it's being tested, that we're the ones falling for some kind of trap.

Yeah.

I want people to just slow it down.

Is that actually what just happened?

That you and I started with the sci-fi belief and we're falling into some trap that's been laid for us, some catnip for our brains that says that the AI is bad.

I really, really, really want people to slow down and actually ask that question.

There might be another accusation.

I'm just driving up fear so that I can make money on a movie and do speaking engagements about why the doom is coming.

Let me just say a few things.

I don't make money from a single speaking engagement.

All the money goes into the nonprofit.

I don't make money from the AI doc film.

I didn't make any money on the social dilemma.