Tristan Harris

In fact, there's actually a view by many people that...

Anthropic in some ways is dangerous because the view that it is the safest, it's the Volvo.

People know the Volvos are the safest cars.

They did a lot of marketing to present that.

People think that Anthropic is just the safe AI company.

So if they won, then suddenly everything is fine.

And that would be dangerous.

And that we have to have a critical view of the companies and the technology and the international limits that we need that are going to happen from outside and above the companies, not just what an individual company can do.

So I totally agree.

How long have we got?

No one knows because AI is literally moving so quickly.

If I went on Twitter, Elon joked in a conversation I saw yesterday, you know, it used to be that you'd go on Twitter and once every six months, this is several years ago, you would see a huge AI breakthrough.

Like that would just really change the game.

Now there's one, you know, that you see when you go to bed and there's a new one when you wake up in the morning and you're on Twitter and you see it.

And the pace is pretty overwhelming.

So I think rather than ask, how much time do we have, which is kind of like just trying to assuage the fear that I think a lot of people feel, the kind of bold, brave human thing to do is to ask if things were to go well.

What would that mean about how we were showing up?

And then to get as many people as possible showing up from that place, because that gets us the best decentralized conditions to get to the better outcome.

They say in mathematics that in chaos, initial conditions matter.

So I'm not guaranteeing in any way, shape or form that we're going to get to the better future.