Tristan Hughes

That the field troops bring them out.

Yeah, so we think the field army is coming in.

So we know that that's there.

But that feels very much like the exception to the rule because it's one big major event we hear about at the time.

But as we get to the early 5th century, how independent would you argue that these border forces already are, that these communities already are along Hadrian's Wall?

It's really difficult to say.

Great generals talk about logistics, right?

So we should talk about logistics.

Go on then.

Yeah.

And Stilicho was a magistrate militum, right?

So is it the idea that as long as we can see that this role exists, that that position exists, then you can't say that these border forces are independent in any way because they're still very much part of the system?

Exactly that.

So, you know,

Is there a cut-off point where that position no longer exists and then it sees that the logistics chains fall apart and then these communities just rely on their own cattle and their own agriculture to really survive and thrive?

And there we go.

We'll come back when you've tested the lipids on some of those pots then.

Well, let's keep moving on.

I don't think we need to, not today at least, delve into detail with the Great Barbarian Conspiracy, because I think we've already set the scene that it seems like the Limitani are still there very much after that.

But let's go to the traditional end date, the fall of Roman Britain, which yourself and James have done so brilliantly for us in the past.