Trita Parsi

And despite the fact that there's a lot of anger, a lot of anger in Kuwait and on the GCC side, there's a lot of anger on the Iranian side as well, because they believe that there's plenty of evidence, and some evidence has been verified by independent actors.

France 24 showed, for instance, that there were a lot of attacks on Iranian soil from the US, from Kuwaiti territory.

And the Iranians believe that the Emiratis were far more involved in the war than they thought earlier during the war.

There's a lot of common anger.

So, and you know, they have the two secret bases in Iraq, for instance.

Yeah, we didn't know that.

How did the Israelis get bases in Iraq?

I have no idea.

how that happened, but it makes me wonder how many more bases there may be.

Because if it's two that we know of now, how many more may there actually exist?

And remember, for years, the Iranians were actually fighting, shooting missiles into Iraqi Kurdistan, saying that they were destroying Mossad houses.

I don't think they ever said that they struck a base, but nevertheless, and it was oftentimes dismissed.

No clear evidence was provided by the Iranians.

But it is unmistakable that the Israelis have had a very long presence in Iraqi Kurdistan.

And this goes back before the revolution as well, in which frankly, back in the 60s and the 70s, it was the Iranians and the Israelis together with the CIA that established Israel's presence in Iraqi Kurdistan.

By the way, on that issue that you mentioned that is never about enrichment, I was at a TRAK2 meeting, this must have been 2012, I think.

And I wrote about it in one of my books.

It was a remarkable moment because you had several Iranian officials, some of them former, some of them actual nuclear negotiators, together with a couple of American military folks, and then five people from the Israeli side, all military, except one who was a top intelligence person.

In fact, he was the former head of Mossad.

At one moment, he just laid it out.